Brightwell nitrate R

[erfan_m_h]

Hi everyone.
My nitrate is about 50 ppm and I want use brightwell NITRATE R to reduce it.
Is there anyone use it ? Did it work in reef tank ?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I have no confidence this can work as described in seawater.

 

[RMS18]

I have no confidence this can work as described in seawater.

Has this been tested yet?

 

[Mywifeisgunnakillme]

Has this been tested yet?

Bought some. Will test in a BRS reactor.

 

[Mywifeisgunnakillme]

Put the nitrate r in last night. This morning nitrates according to hanna high range checker have dropped 2ppm. Nothing crazy. Will update again over the course of the week and month.

 

[Mywifeisgunnakillme]

I feed this morning as normal. Nitrates this evening are now 1.4 ppm higher than when first added.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I would just reiterate that it is highly unlikely to work as described. There is no polymer that is "highly specific" for nitrate in seawater.

All resin materials may have a small nitrate reduction capability by binding organics and removing them from the water before they break down to release N.

 

[Mywifeisgunnakillme]

I would just reiterate that it is highly unlikely to work as described. There is no polymer that is "highly specific" for nitrate in seawater.

All resin materials may have a small nitrate reduction capability by binding organics and removing them from the water before they break down to release N.

You're probably right. I am just trying it out and it doesnt work then--i may not buy Brightwell products anymore.. they do make the claim that this will lower nitrates in reef tanks and i not really seeing that so far
.

 

[RMS18]

Put the nitrate r in last night. This morning nitrates according to hanna high range checker have dropped 2ppm. Nothing crazy. Will update again over the course of the week and month.

That difference can just be the variance of the Hanna checker as well so it doesn't look like anything moved.

 

[Mywifeisgunnakillme]

That difference can just be the variance of the Hanna checker as well so it doesn't look like anything moved.

For sure. I am feeding still so there is an input as well. But the label clearly says will lower nitrates in an aquarium... Says 20ppm per 200 gallon tank, with 1000ml of product... I am using 300 ml in a 50 gallon, so i assume this would drop nitrates dramatically.. lol... I assume they account to some degree that people still feed! lol

 

[RMS18]

For sure. I am feeding still so there is an input as well. But the label clearly says will lower nitrates in an aquarium... Says 20ppm per 200 gallon tank, with 1000ml of product... I am using 300 ml in a 50 gallon, so i assume this would drop nitrates dramatically.. lol... I assume they account to some degree that people still feed! lol

Thanks for trying this out. Brightwell is a good company, curious to see where this goes.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Brightwell is a good company,

Why do you think so?

They have a number of seriously flawed product claims. Either they stem from ignorance or worse.

Without going on my rant about all of them, let's look at one of the obvious ones:

Boost pH+

Brightwell Aquatics - Boost pH+

www.brightwellaquatics.com

"Boost pH+ High Range pH Increaser, raises pH only without increasing alkalinity or calcium (in tanks already having a proper dKH)"

"Increases pH in marine and reef aquaria without affecting alkalinity or calcium level on properly buffered tanks (which is an unusual ability not found in most similar products) ."

Seriously? Doesn't increase alkalinity? They scream it in giant letters on their web page. But do they really believe it?

Of course it boosts alkalinity, and they know it because they sell other products with the identical component (hydroxide) and claim it boosts alkalinity.

On the same web page:

"Warning: Contains caustic sodium and potassium hydroxides in a proprietary base; "

So far so good, that part is true.

So if it contains hydroxide, then why would they claim it doesn't boost alkalinity?

So now let's look at their kalk+2 (another set of misleading claims, but we will only focus on the accurate part of their claims:

Brightwell Aquatics - Kalk+2

www.brightwellaquatics.com

"Provides temporary alkalinity and helps maintain pH within the desired range when used
as directed."

"Ingredients
Calcium hydroxide, Strontium hydroxide, Magnesium hydroxide"

Thus, when they want it to (in kalkwasser), hydroxide provides alkalinity (it truly does) and when they don't want it to (in Boost pH+) , it still does despite them saying it doesn't.

Very disappointing.

 

[RMS18]

Why do you think so?

They have a number of seriously flawed product claims. Either they stem from ignorance or worse.

Without going on my rant about all of them, let's look at one of the obvious ones:

Boost pH+

Brightwell Aquatics - Boost pH+

www.brightwellaquatics.com

"Boost pH+ High Range pH Increaser, raises pH only without increasing alkalinity or calcium (in tanks already having a proper dKH)"

"Increases pH in marine and reef aquaria without affecting alkalinity or calcium level on properly buffered tanks (which is an unusual ability not found in most similar products) ."

Seriously? Doesn't increase alkalinity? They scream it in giant letters on their web page. But do they really believe it?

Of course it boosts alkalinity, and they know it because they sell other products with the identical component (hydroxide) and claim it boosts alkalinity.

On the same web page:

"Warning: Contains caustic sodium and potassium hydroxides in a proprietary base; "

So far so good, that part is true.

So if it contains hydroxide, then why would they claim it doesn't boost alkalinity?

So now let's look at their kalk+2 (another set of misleading claims, but we will only focus on the accurate part of their claims:

Brightwell Aquatics - Kalk+2

www.brightwellaquatics.com

"Provides temporary alkalinity and helps maintain pH within the desired range when used
as directed."

"Ingredients
Calcium hydroxide, Strontium hydroxide, Magnesium hydroxide"

Thus, when they want it to (in kalkwasser), hydroxide provides alkalinity (it truly does) and when they don't want it to (in Boost pH+) , it still does despite them saying it doesn't.

Very disappointing.

IME with the products I have used brightwell is a good company. I have used their phosphate, nitrate, cheato grow, phosphate -E, potassium liquid and granular, mb7, AA, and their microstart. All of them have done exactly what they were said to do. I can see on those two products you referenced there is some discrepancy, and possibly with this nitrate product as well.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

IME with the products I have used brightwell is a good company. I have used their phosphate, nitrate, cheato grow, phosphate -E, potassium liquid and granular, mb7, AA, and their microstart. All of them have done exactly what they were said to do. I can see on those two products you referenced there is some discrepancy, and possibly with this nitrate product as well.

I don't have any special beef with those products, aside from not knowing anything about the purity of, say, neophos or neonitro.

 

[RMS18]

I don't have any special beef with those products, aside from not knowing anything about the purity of, say, neophos or neonitro.

I can understand that. As long as bottled products imo are not constantly used it's not the worst thing to our tanks. Less is more. You have to admit tho, your curious to know what's in that nitrate remover and how this plays out

 

[Mywifeisgunnakillme]

Thanks for trying this out. Brightwell is a good company, curious to see where this goes.

Yeah, i use to think so. I am out $80.00 on total fake advertising. Nitrates are up 5ppm today.

Nitrate R is total garbage in a marine tank. It definitely does not lower nitrates, and in the first few days of using a butt load of it--it would if it could....

Guess i am done with buying brightwell products in general.... And i liked them before, but this is pretty blatant false statements that my hanna checker showed me indisputably. I just can't see buying even stuff i (think) i liked (and haven't objectively tested to see if it really is doing what they say) when they essentially tricked me out of money.

Should have just listened to Randy instead of wishful thinking...

 

[RMS18]

Yeah, i use to think so. I am out $80.00 on total fake advertising. Nitrates are up 5ppm today.

Nitrate R is total garbage in a marine tank. It definitely does not lower nitrates, and in the first few days of using a butt load of it--it would if it could....

Guess i am done with buying brightwell products in general.... And i liked them before, but this is pretty blatant false statements that my hanna checker showed me indisputably. I just can't see buying even stuff i (think) i liked (and haven't objectively tested to see if it really is doing what they say) when they essentially tricked me out of money.

Should have just listened to Randy instead of wishful thinking...

Sorry to hear the skepticism came true. We all waste money at some point in this hobby, usually multiple times lol.

 

[Mywifeisgunnakillme]

Sorry to hear the skepticism came true. We all waste money at some point in this hobby, usually multiple times lol.

I don't mind wasting money. I just think this is a bogus lie:

 

[RMS18]

Just playing devil's advocate here, they state "excessive" nitrates. Do you have excessive nitrates? Wonder what would happen dosing in a tank with 40+ ppm.

 

[Mywifeisgunnakillme]

Just playing devil's advocate here, they state "excessive" nitrates. Do you have excessive nitrates? Wonder what would happen dosing in a tank with 40+ ppm.

yes.

In tanks without excessive nitrates i don't know why anyone would use it and if there is less nitrates it should still drop them since it "targets them"

I am not even sure high nitrates are a thing to care about. My tank looks great, no algae at all or issues. I just figure if a media reduced them, i'd try it-----------------so i could chase some numbers and cause a problem when there is not one present

Carbon dosing led to issues. I bought some sulfur chips and will try a small sulfur reactor. Check the 50 gallon build thread if anyone is curious about that working or not.