brightwell phosphate remover affecting btas?

Wiz · Apr 29, 2015

okay so I used britewell for the first time yesterday. couple hours after everything seemed OK. today all my corals and fish seem fine. starfish shrimp everything seems ok. but I have 3 BTA's. two purple tip GBTAs. 1 RBTA. they look ok bubbled and stuff still. but they are tucked up to half of their normal size. not too worried, but it is definitely a behavior I have not seen in them since I got them. And all three are showing the same half-opened behavior. thoughts? Third is on the bottom right of the tubs.

Wiz · Apr 29, 2015

Sorry for the wrong placement for the thread. I hope my nems will be ok. I'm afraid to dose again :-( dang phosphates

Randy Holmes-Farley · Apr 29, 2015

Lanthanum can irritate or even kill fish if they swim into a cloud of the lanthanum carbonate precipitate as it is forming.

How did you add it and did you try to collect the precipitate?

Wiz · Apr 29, 2015

I added it exactly as directed. slowly poured the cap fulls into the skimmer area. it did cauz the display to cloud for a half an hour or so. Lighte cloud not dark. all fish corals and invertebrates are fine it is only the three bubble tips that are upset

Randy Holmes-Farley · Apr 30, 2015

Keep us posted on how they do!

Wiz · Apr 30, 2015

Alk three are still half open. It kinda stinks cuz I dont want to use anymore of the $30 bottle

O) until they are ok. They are bubbled so I feel like they will be fine. But why would they stay half closed? They are usually all open. I can usually see there tentacles over the tops of the rock. :-( man I don't want to lose them. Especially the rbta

Wiz · Apr 30, 2015

This is how they usually look.

Wiz · May 1, 2015

One of the gbtas is starting to open more. I think there gonna be ok. Another thing though. I spotlight my display and fuge EVERY night before bed. Without fail. My fuge has always been crawling with life. Stomatella, Amphipods, copapods, isopods, brittle stars, pumpkin flatworms, acoel flatworms, skeleton shrimp and various sandworms. The past two nights my fuge has been almost "dead". I have seen a couple amphipods, one isopod (were hundreds), some brittles, and sand worms. But that's it. Very unusual. I would estimate I lost at least 75% of my tiny fuge life!! :-

-( this is very upsetting to me. I love them as much as my coral. I sit for hours (literally) watchin my macros come to life at night. I'm pretty sure this is due to brightwell. I havnt changed anything else. I will not use brightwell again. $30 down the drain:-(. I should have known better then to trust a chemical. But so many said it was fine. But how many stare at tiny bugs like me. Lesson learned. Waiting on my brs reactor and gfo. Guess I need a new pod order. :-( probably wait a bit for the chemical to get processed.

hejjo · May 1, 2015

Sorry to hear that. I love looking into my fuge as well. The best part is it seems like I find something new every night lol.
Other than my doser id say my brs dual reactor is the best thing I've ever done for my tank. I recommend the rox .8 carbon. Not only the best but for a few extra dollars it does over twice the filtering.

Here's a link to there carbon demo

http://youtu.be/oVpRGzerJFI

Wiz · May 1, 2015

hejjo said:
Sorry to hear that. I love looking into my fuge as well. The best part is it seems like I find something new every night lol.
Other than my doser id say my brs dual reactor is the best thing I've ever done for my tank. I recommend the rox .8 carbon. Not only the best but for a few extra dollars it does over twice the filtering.

Here's a link to there carbon demo

http://youtu.be/oVpRGzerJFI

I agree. Hope it rebounds ok... I have carbon onhand already. But I will give the rox 8 a go after :-D

Wiz · May 1, 2015

So two are now looking better. But the third is still kinda sad. :-( glad my rbta us good thougg.

maybe it was just irritation. I hope. Still upset bout my fuge though.

that Reef Guy · May 1, 2015

Randy Holmes-Farley said:
Lanthanum can irritate or even kill fish if they swim into a cloud of the lanthanum carbonate precipitate as it is forming.

How did you add it and did you try to collect the precipitate?

How are you supposed to add it?

I am thinking about using it.

Wiz · May 1, 2015

There are directions on the bottle. Says to add the recommended dose near the skimmer intake. Not sure how you would "collect the participate". But be careful. Especially if you have a fuge.

Reefahholic · May 2, 2015

I can tell you for sure that running phosphate can definitely affect your anemones.

It depends on what brand, how effective/Quality, and delivery method.

Obviously reactors work well for GFO, but dosing liquid can really upset them. I would stop the liquid and run a reactor.

I have my reactors dialed in at my sweet spot. Enough for the tank to do well, but not affect my nems.

When my nems get irritated, I'll cut my reactors off for a day or three.

Wiz · May 2, 2015

So gfo will affect them? How? There's no contact. Right. Or is it phosphate level?

Reefahholic · May 4, 2015

Wiz said:
So gfo will affect them? How? There's no contact. Right. Or is it phosphate level?

Because just like coral, if you completely strip the water column, they don't like that. Especially harder anemones.

Put three Magnifica in a tank and run some Purigen via reactor full blast and let me know how their doing the 2-3 day.

Wiz · May 5, 2015

Reefahholic said:
Because just like coral, if you completely strip the water column, they don't like that. Especially harder anemones.

Put three Magnifica in a tank and run some Purigen via reactor full blast and let me know how their doing the 2-3 day.

I only used one dose. There is no way it stripped all the phosphate.

Wiz · May 5, 2015

All three bubble tips are back now. :-D my fuge is still sad. But ill fix that. I got the reactor and it is running as of today. :-D hope it works. If you like your fuge life I would not use brightwell.