brightwell phosphate remover affecting btas?

[Reefahholic]

I only used one dose. There is no way it stripped all the phosphate.

From what I hear, it can decrease the oxygen in the water dramatically.

 

[that Reef Guy]

From what I hear, it can decrease the oxygen in the water dramatically.

I have never heard that but it does concern me.

Does anybody use Air Stones when Dosing the Product to prevent the Loss of Oxygen?

 

[Reefahholic]

I killed 10-15 fish about 3 months ago with Red Sea PO3/PO4-X.

Just be careful. I'm no newbie either. Only 3/ML wiped them all out. Returned home from work to find all my fish pop-eyed and floating. All the Liquids are strong and will deplete ur oxygen.


Look at this:




No........ Don't use liquid phosphate removers. They deplete the O2 level in the tank. These may be the most dangerous products on the market.

If these products are simply dosed to the tank, the phosphate will precipitates out. Then later on it can break down and enter the water again. These products should not be called phosphate removers, because they don't remove phosphate. They simply bind it for a time.

To use these products efficiently, you'd need to set up a very slow flow filter sock, with a micron rating of about 5. The product can then be VERY slowly dosed to the sock. As the phosphate precipitates out, it gets caught in the sock. When the sock is removed the phosphate is also removed.

There are much easier, and safer was of dealing with phosphate without dumping harmful chemicals into the tank.

Peace
EC

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I have never heard that but it does concern me.

Does anybody use Air Stones when Dosing the Product to prevent the Loss of Oxygen?

Lanthanum products have no impact on oxygen.

Organic carbon dosing does (vodka, vinegar, NOPOX, etc.).

 

[that Reef Guy]

I killed 10-15 fish about 3 months ago with Red Sea PO3/PO4-X.

Just be careful. I'm no newbie either. Only 3/ML wiped them all out. Returned home from work to find all my fish pop-eyed and floating. All the Liquids are strong and will deplete ur oxygen.


Look at this:




No........ Don't use liquid phosphate removers. They deplete the O2 level in the tank. These may be the most dangerous products on the market.

If these products are simply dosed to the tank, the phosphate will precipitates out. Then later on it can break down and enter the water again. These products should not be called phosphate removers, because they don't remove phosphate. They simply bind it for a time.

To use these products efficiently, you'd need to set up a very slow flow filter sock, with a micron rating of about 5. The product can then be VERY slowly dosed to the sock. As the phosphate precipitates out, it gets caught in the sock. When the sock is removed the phosphate is also removed.

There are much easier, and safer was of dealing with phosphate without dumping harmful chemicals into the tank.

Peace
EC

Is that a Lanthanum Product?

Because Randy says it would have no impact on Oxygen meaning something else killed the fish if that is the case.

Also, I was told that Protein Skimmers take out the Binded Phosphate.

I was told if you do not have a Skimmer then this Product will not work.

Is that Correct?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Is that a Lanthanum Product?

Because Randy says it would have no impact on Oxygen meaning something else killed the fish if that is the case.

Also, I was told that Protein Skimmers take out the Binded Phosphate.

I was told if you do not have a Skimmer then this Product will not work.

Is that Correct?

It can still work, but then it leaves all of the lanthanum phosphate and carbonate to accumulate as sediment in the aquarium, and some of that may eventually redissolve.

 

[that Reef Guy]

It can still work, but then it leaves all of the lanthanum phosphate and carbonate to accumulate as sediment in the aquarium, and some of that may eventually redissolve.

So I take it you would only use Lanthanum Products with a Protein Skimmer right?

If you do not have a Protein Skimmer then GFO would be a better option right?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I personally would only use lanthanum products in an out of the tank treatment, such as stripping phosphate from live rock.

Even with a skimmer you do not get it all, and the procedure does boost lanthanum to unnatural levels.

IMO, GFO is llkely a better option regardless of the presence of a skimmer, but without one, definitely.