Bryopsis Cure: My Battle With Bryopsis Using Fluconazole

Did Fluconazole Kill all of your Bryopsis?

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What was the lead in to this start? A big increase in livestock or some other disturbance, or was it a mystery and it just started? How old was the tank at this time?



Even the best bandaid – don't they come with ointment in the little pad now? – is only a bandaid. ;)



Of course you hope your bandaid doesn't make your hair fall out!! Ack!



Vibrant + lack of aeration + huge wad of medication in the tank = unhappy critters

Happy corals are very resilient. I'm betting your established SPS didn't like the vibrant as much as you suspect (did PO4 bottom out as the vibrant went to work?) and the other changes just tilted things against him too much. If he was very mature, is there any change his flow situation had become marginal? That's a typical "cost of success" since they, and all their neighbors, grow to create maximum turbulence.



Those nutrient levels don't seem that high, but what had they been historically, prior to the bloom? Do you run the tank fairly bright on lighting? (do you know some PAR or lux readings?)



Dang-glad you could save a tip!!! I've had no luck in the few cases I've had to attempt a rescue like that.



Rarely a bad move! :) ;)



Mission accomplished....albeit with casualties.



Yes... :)

...with the small caveat that you have to manage nutrients both ways....zero'ing out N or P isn't very helpful and can be harmful. (Whether you want to take the blame or consider that the V treatment was the cause...? ;))

Zero'ing N is arguably tolerated longer, especially depending on what your daily nutrient inputs are.

Zero'ing P can have worse consequences, much more quickly just due to the nature of it's many uses in coral and the rest of the food web.

Many good articles out there, some of which I have linked in the Nutrients section of my blog. Some goodies:

Lead into all this was Vibrant I guess. I had hope it would remove the bryopsis before it got bad but it didn't touch it. Did do very well on all other algae however even cyano. Removing the remaining cheato was the mistake, I'm sure it would have recovered well before or at the time I dosed 6000mg of Fluz. In fact, I may not have needed to dose at all. My system livestock all seems great after using Vibrant, some where a bit more pale but nothing terrible.


I like my NO3 ~4-8ppm and PO4 <.04.


No tested nutrient where not very high but I am sure there was more than just NO3 and PO4 added to the water column after such a large amount of algae die off.


I prefer to keep my NO3 at or above 4ppm and PO4 less than .05. I actually add potassium nitrate to keep my NO3 where it is, now and before all this. As you can see in my system build I have several methods for control of nutrients. I somehow totally underestimated what cheato dose for me, and of course a large skimmer.
 
What was the lead in to this start? A big increase in livestock or some other disturbance, or was it a mystery and it just started? How old was the tank at this time?



Even the best bandaid – don't they come with ointment in the little pad now? – is only a bandaid. ;)



Of course you hope your bandaid doesn't make your hair fall out!! Ack!



Vibrant + lack of aeration + huge wad of medication in the tank = unhappy critters

Happy corals are very resilient. I'm betting your established SPS didn't like the vibrant as much as you suspect (did PO4 bottom out as the vibrant went to work?) and the other changes just tilted things against him too much. If he was very mature, is there any change his flow situation had become marginal? That's a typical "cost of success" since they, and all their neighbors, grow to create maximum turbulence.



Those nutrient levels don't seem that high, but what had they been historically, prior to the bloom? Do you run the tank fairly bright on lighting? (do you know some PAR or lux readings?)



Dang-glad you could save a tip!!! I've had no luck in the few cases I've had to attempt a rescue like that.



Rarely a bad move! :) ;)



Mission accomplished....albeit with casualties.



Yes... :)

...with the small caveat that you have to manage nutrients both ways....zero'ing out N or P isn't very helpful and can be harmful. (Whether you want to take the blame or consider that the V treatment was the cause...? ;))

Zero'ing N is arguably tolerated longer, especially depending on what your daily nutrient inputs are.

Zero'ing P can have worse consequences, much more quickly just due to the nature of it's many uses in coral and the rest of the food web.

Many good articles out there, some of which I have linked in the Nutrients section of my blog. Some goodies:

I fully take the blame. If I had made better choices and executed it better no doubt it would have turned out differently.

By day 7 I saw problems yet failed to act. Day 8 decided to act finally. Day 9 first signs of RTN.
 
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I know that's been posted a hundred times, but I just clicked for the first time out of curiosity.

Prescription meds without a prescription straight from China with free shipping by the US Postal Service. :confused::rolleyes:

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Wonderful.

Real life is always better than anything they could make up in the movies.
 
The Original Poster (NCreefguy) said this

Q: How much Fluconazole do I use?
A: The suggested dose is one SINGLE dose in the amount of 20mg per gallon of water. There are reefers who are experimenting with using 10mg per gallon right now, but none with completing the 1st "round".

Then this site was recommended to buy the Flucon From

https://www.payless-petproducts.com/fluconazole200.html


But that site selling the Flucon says this

Directions:

Add 1 pre-dissolved capsule (200 mg) into aquarium for every 10 gallons of water to be treated. Repeat every 24 hours for 5 consecutive days. It is suggested that a partial water change be made between treatments. Discontinue use if no improvement is noted after 5 days.

So are we supposed to do a single dose or dose 5 days in a row?

How many capsules are needed for a 55 gallon tank for the whole process?
 
Now that people have been doing this for a while has anybody had any coral deaths (or stress on the Corals) or is it still deemed 100 Percent Safe on Corals like the original poster states?
 
What Algae's does this kill?

What Types doe sit NOT Kill?
This kills bryopsis. The type that looks like fern fronds. It kills some but not all species of green hair algae and takes longer to do so. Generally 2 treatments. 1st if you have GHA you should test to see if hydrogen peroxide will kill it by putting a piece in a cup with a little tank water the put a capfull of hydrogen peroxide on it. If the algae turns white in 24 hours hydrogen peroxide treatment will work to kill that species. We have not known it to kill anything else so far.
 
This kills bryopsis. The type that looks like fern fronds. It kills some but not all species of green hair algae and takes longer to do so. Generally 2 treatments. 1st if you have GHA you should test to see if hydrogen peroxide will kill it by putting a piece in a cup with a little tank water the put a capfull of hydrogen peroxide on it. If the algae turns white in 24 hours hydrogen peroxide treatment will work to kill that species. We have not known it to kill anything else so far.

Interesting.

How much Tank Water should one put with the GHA and the Capful of Peroxide?
 
The Original Poster (NCreefguy) said this

Q: How much Fluconazole do I use?
A: The suggested dose is one SINGLE dose in the amount of 20mg per gallon of water. There are reefers who are experimenting with using 10mg per gallon right now, but none with completing the 1st "round".

Then this site was recommended to buy the Flucon From

https://www.payless-petproducts.com/fluconazole200.html


But that site selling the Flucon says this

Directions:

Add 1 pre-dissolved capsule (200 mg) into aquarium for every 10 gallons of water to be treated. Repeat every 24 hours for 5 consecutive days. It is suggested that a partial water change be made between treatments. Discontinue use if no improvement is noted after 5 days.

So are we supposed to do a single dose or dose 5 days in a row?

How many capsules are needed for a 55 gallon tank for the whole process?
Ignore the instructions from the medication site because they're talking about treating fish not bryopsis. For every 10g of water volume (take away rocks and sand and such and don't forget to add in the water in your sump) use one 200mg capsule stirred well in a cup of tank water. Disperse in high flow preferably at night when the fish are at rest. Turn off all carbon sources and purigen if you're running it. Skimmer cup off and turned all the way down or shut it down completely. After game 4 you can turn it back on if you wish but it's best if you leave it off because it could skim out the medication. Dose ONCE
 
Now that people have been doing this for a while has anybody had any coral deaths (or stress on the Corals) or is it still deemed 100 Percent Safe on Corals like the original poster states?
The only problems that occurred is because people are not watching their husbandry and checking their parameters. If you see no.3 rise which is not common then you might want to try some nopox. If phosphates rise make sure you have gfo running.
 
Ignore the instructions from the medication site because they're talking about treating fish not bryopsis. For every 10g of water volume (take away rocks and sand and such and don't forget to add in the water in your sump) use one 200mg capsule stirred well in a cup of tank water. Disperse in high flow preferably at night when the fish are at rest. Turn off all carbon sources and purigen if you're running it. Skimmer cup off and turned all the way down or shut it down completely. After game 4 you can turn it back on if you wish but it's best if you leave it off because it could skim out the medication. Dose ONCE

I see so just one dose.

Thanks for the Info.
 
The only problems that occurred is because people are not watching their husbandry and checking their parameters. If you see no.3 rise which is not common then you might want to try some nopox. If phosphates rise make sure you have gfo running.

Does the rise in Nitrate and Phosphate affect the Process of Killing the Algae or does it just affect the Corals?
 
Does the rise in Nitrate and Phosphate affect the Process of Killing the Algae or does it just affect the Corals?
It will affect your corals and may slow the killing process... that is different from tank to tank and depends on what kind of algae you have.
 
Does the rise in Nitrate and Phosphate affect the Process of Killing the Algae or does it just affect the Corals?

It will affect your corals and may slow the killing process... that is different from tank to tank and depends on what kind of algae you have.

It would be better to say it depends if the tank is healthy to begin with or not. A reasonably healthy tank isn't going to look twice at an increase of N and P....it'll just fuel a coral growth spurt. WIN!!!! :)

But for your tank it's impossible for us to say without asking more questions to find out.

There's at least a chance that something is wrong with the tank that allowed this opportunist algae to flourish in a tank that should be brimming with both competitors and predators. :) The corals are a part of that ecosystem, so they may be in a hampered state as well.

I'd figure this out before dosing anything (else) into my tank.

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The algae that is dying is no longer going to be able to soak up the po4 + no.3. Therefore more will be in your water column in some cases depending on the severity of your algae outbreak and how quickly it dies.
 
to avoid having to read 187 pages trying to learn if there have been refinements to this bryopsis "wonder drug" dosing i have a couple of questions:
exactly how long is the medication period supposed to last? basically i mean when should the skimmer get back in the game and how long from the start of treatment should a person wait to do a water change?
 

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