Bryopsis, fluco just not cutting it!!

[lou dog420]

So I have been battling Bryopsis for over a year now, I have done the fluco treatment twice, but both times Bryopsis came back in about 2 months. Is there anything else that any of you would recommend? Are there any urchins or anything that will touch this stuff?? Getting very frustrated with the tank.

 

[Smo]

Following along. I have the same frustration after four Fluconazole treatments over the past year. The last treatment included heavy dosing of Vibrant for a couple of months. At least the bubble algae has not returned. But the Bryopsis keeps coming back to same locations so something deep in my Pukani rock is surviving the treatments.

 

[Instigate]

I've been dealing with bryopsis as well. I did one 6 week treatment of flucon and it helped but didn't kill it all off. So I turned my skimmer back on and did some water changes over a couple weeks. Then I made a second attempt. The first time I was conservative in my dosing of flucon but the second time I was more heavy handed. I also started dosing vibrant and (accidentally) elevated my mg over 1500. That time it killed off all the bryopsis. Or so I thought. Dinos showed up and now after elevating my nutrients I'm seeing what looks like the same bryopsis I had before here and there. I'll have to check on a microscope or macro lens on my camera but it looks the same. It's very similar to GHA so I'm not 100%.

 

[mistresscorals]

I used fluco 2 times and it didn’t completely take it out. It wasn’t until I brought my phosphate down to zero and did a 3 day black out while doing fluco that it worked completely. This was in a 600 gallon system consisting of several tanks. I now make sure to keep my phosphate down and I don’t have to battle it anymore. Hope this helps.

 

[lou dog420]

I have pukani as well, but mine keeps coming back on the glass.

 

[Instigate]

I have pukani as well, but mine keeps coming back on the glass.

Same, mostly pukani.

 

[lou dog420]

My phosphate was a little elevated at the time of treatment, I will keep this in mind thank you.

 

[lou dog420]

I've been dealing with bryopsis as well. I did one 6 week treatment of flucon and it helped but didn't kill it all off. So I turned my skimmer back on and did some water changes over a couple weeks. Then I made a second attempt. The first time I was conservative in my dosing of flucon but the second time I was more heavy handed. I also started dosing vibrant and (accidentally) elevated my mg over 1500. That time it killed off all the bryopsis. Or so I thought. Dinos showed up and now after elevating my nutrients I'm seeing what looks like the same bryopsis I had before here and there. I'll have to check on a microscope or macro lens on my camera but it looks the same. It's very similar to GHA so I'm not 100%.

Maybe keeping the mag up is key.

 

[Instigate]

Maybe keeping the mag up is key.

I know it was mentioned as a possible treatment but I assume it doesn't work well on it's own or I would hear more people suggesting it. But yeah, I just threw all the treatments at it and it seemed to work...Until I elevated my nutrients to try to battle dinos now! It never ends..lol

 

[Scubabum]

Just posted a new thread about this. Another Pukani user. My post was after the 2nd dose of flucon.

 

[juju187]

I've had bryopsis and fluconazole (10mg/l) killed every last bit within 2 weeks having tried all other treatments sequentially.

Are you 100% sure what you have is Bryopsis? What is your fluconazole dosage? Please post pictures.

There is no evidence that elevated Mg (magnesium chloride/sulphate) kills bryopsis and I confirm with own experiments. There is some evidence old Mg supplements containing lithium contaminants worked.

 

[Instigate]

I've had bryopsis and fluconazole (10mg/l) killed every last bit within 2 weeks having tried all other treatments sequentially.

Are you 100% sure what you have is Bryopsis? What is your fluconazole dosage? Please post pictures.

There is no evidence that elevated Mg (magnesium chloride/sulphate) kills bryopsis and I confirm with own experiments. There is some evidence old Mg supplements containing lithium contaminants worked.

There are many species of bryopsis, the fluconizole works much better on some than others. For me, I'm sure what I have is bryopsis. I took macro shots of it and @Jose Mayo confirmed it was bryopsis.

 

[juju187]

What concentration of fluconazole are you using? Assume you are not running any carbon/UV/heavy skimming/water changes during treatment?

 

[lejeune981]

I had bryopsis growing on my upflow ats.. and some of it got loose into my fuge..
I've got ALOT of macro growing..anyways the bryopsis now resides on my frag rack.. scrubber was taken over by cheato and calderpa prolifera... when ever the frag rack in the fugees gets too hairy.. I just move it to the display and my rabbit fish and tangs devour the stuff..

So maybe try a rabbit fish or tangs to clean up the bryopsis?
My rabbit is 5 inches long
Purple tang about 4.5
And scopas tang about 3.5

 

[Ocean Lotion]

It took me 2 long treatments. The last was 2 months long to kill the roots down in my rock. Have to make sure all equipment gets the treatment.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

I've had bryopsis and fluconazole (10mg/l) killed every last bit within 2 weeks having tried all other treatments sequentially.

Are you 100% sure what you have is Bryopsis? What is your fluconazole dosage? Please post pictures.

There is no evidence that elevated Mg (magnesium chloride/sulphate) kills bryopsis and I confirm with own experiments. There is some evidence old Mg supplements containing lithium contaminants worked.

This.

It’s very odd for it to not work.
I would double check the I’d.
It’s pasible if one is using puck style lights the algae is not getting enough light. Many report the need for high light levels.

 

[Instigate]

What concentration of fluconazole are you using? Assume you are not running any carbon/UV/heavy skimming/water changes during treatment?

This.

It’s very odd for it to not work.
I would double check the I’d.
It’s pasible if one is using puck style lights the algae is not getting enough light. Many report the need for high light levels.

I dosed the tank as directed on the ReefHD Reef Flux bottle, 1 capsule for every 10 gallons. I estimated 140 gallons total water volume and dosed for 150 gallons. The 140 gallon estimate gives the expected results when adjusting alk so I'm pretty sure I'm on point with that estimate. I stopped skimming and took carbon offline. I have t5 and LED over my setup. And I did the treatment for 6 weeks. When I would do a WC I would dose the fresh saltwater with flucon before doing the WC. I'm very confident I did everything as directed. When I got the ID of bryopsis from Jose Mayo I had taken photos with a macro lens, he said it was for sure bryopsis but would need to see a closer up photo to figure out what type but also said that wasn't necessary and to just go head with flucon treatment. I now have a microscope on hand and could probably find out exactly what type I have. Also, the bryopsis was effectively gone for several weeks until I had to raise my po4 to battle dinos. But like I said, I haven't gotten an ID on what I have growing right now, but it looks exactly the same as what I had before. I'll get a sample and put it under the scope and see.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

I dosed the tank as directed on the ReefHD Reef Flux bottle, 1 capsule for every 10 gallons. I estimated 140 gallons total water volume and dosed for 150 gallons. The 140 gallon estimate gives the expected results when adjusting alk so I'm pretty sure I'm on point with that estimate. I stopped skimming and took carbon offline. I have t5 and LED over my setup. And I did the treatment for 6 weeks. When I would do a WC I would dose the fresh saltwater with flucon before doing the WC. I'm very confident I did everything as directed. When I got the ID of bryopsis from Jose Mayo I had taken photos with a macro lens, he said it was for sure bryopsis but would need to see a closer up photo to figure out what type but also said that wasn't necessary and to just go head with flucon treatment. I now have a microscope on hand and could probably find out exactly what type I have. Also, the bryopsis was effectively gone for several weeks until I had to raise my po4 to battle dinos. But like I said, I haven't gotten an ID on what I have growing right now, but it looks exactly the same as what I had before. I'll get a sample and put it under the scope and see.

Mostly my comment was directed at the op.
But in your case , I do find it odd that I dosed my tanks with a slightly higher dose. The bryo does in two weeks. I left the skimmer one. I did no water changes for one month after the single dose.
I never tested no3 or p04. It’s always high , s who needs a reminder.
My bryopsis never came back.
The only appearant difference I can see is I used the fluconazole from the pet place in the giant bryo thread and not the reef flux hd.

I later used or tried to use the reefhd for a fuzzy red algae in one of my tanks , but it killed all my chato and calurpa and not the red stuff.
The pet place stuff did not effect any of the macros in either of my systems.

 

[Instigate]

Mostly my comment was directed at the op.
But in your case , I do find it odd that I dosed my tanks with a slightly higher dose. The bryo does in two weeks. I left the skimmer one. I did no water changes for one month after the single dose.
I never tested no3 or p04. It’s always high , s who needs a reminder.
My bryopsis never came back.
The only appearant difference I can see is I used the fluconazole from the pet place in the giant bryo thread and not the reef flux hd.

I later used or tried to use the reefhd for a fuzzy red algae in one of my tanks , but it killed all my chato and calurpa and not the red stuff.
The pet place stuff did not effect any of the macros in either of my systems.

That's interesting. I'm just about out of the reef flux. I'll have to try that source. I wonder what the other people that are having trouble used.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

That's interesting. I'm just about out of the reef flux. I'll have to try that source. I wonder what the other people that are having trouble used.

I’ve seen instances (it’s a big huge thread I know ) of folks having difficulty with the pet place stuff and minimal bryo (confirmed) die off and regrowth..
it is a very strange observation/ anomaly.

When I did my dose for bryo , I had about 150-200 par on the sandbed.