Canadians dosing nitrate or phosphate.

Paul31733 · Sep 30, 2020

Hey everyone!
Just wondering fellow Canadians...
What product do you use to to dose phosphate and nitrate and where do you purchase.
Was suggested by the man himself Randy that I should be dosing these but as a newb I am having trouble finding what to use .
Thanks!
Paul.

Labora · Sep 30, 2020

Canadian Tire or Tim Hortons? Haha. It's ok I am a dual citizen I am allowed to make that joke. I'm not sure what my brethren up north use for that though.

WIReefer · Sep 30, 2020

I use this and works very well and great price. You most likely can order it.

Paul31733 · Sep 30, 2020

Labora said:
Canadian Tire or Tim Hortons? Haha. It's ok I am a dual citizen I am allowed to make that joke. I'm not sure what my brethren up north use for that though.

Haha it's ok I love jokes!! Keep em coming!!
But I would also like an educated answer from someone bahaha

Paul31733 · Sep 30, 2020

WIReefer said:
I use this and works very well and great price. You most likely can order it.

Thanks I will look into this. Is this just for phosphate?

WIReefer · Sep 30, 2020

Paul31733 said:
Thanks I will look into this. Is this just for phosphate?

Yeah brings PO4 up well haven’t seen much no3 rise while using it.

Paul31733 · Sep 30, 2020

WIReefer said:
Yeah brings PO4 up well haven’t seen much no3 rise while using it.

Ok I also only have 1 ppm nitrate. Was told should be at 2..

BloopFish · Sep 30, 2020

Trisodium phosphate won't increase nitrates. Don't quote me, but I think Randy prefers Sodium nitrate over Potassium nitrate for nitrate dosing, sodium is already so abundant in seawater that its harder to unbalance that ion.

Sodium nitrate shouldn't be hard to get in Canada. It is used in fertilizer and some... other things that you may or may not know fertilizer is sometimes used for.

Paul31733 · Sep 30, 2020

BloopFish said:
Trisodium phosphate won't increase nitrates. Don't quote me, but I think Randy prefers Sodium nitrate over Potassium nitrate for nitrate dosing, sodium is already so abundant in seawater that its harder to unbalance that ion.

Sodium nitrate shouldn't be hard to get in Canada. It is used in fertilizer and some... other things that you may or may not know fertilizer is sometimes used for.

Yes he did tell me sodium nitrate I was just wondering what brand and stuff .... He had mentioned some brands but I cannot find them on our amazon.

BloopFish · Sep 30, 2020

Paul31733 said:
Yes he did tell me sodium nitrate I was just wondering what brand and stuff .... He had mentioned some brands but I cannot find them on our amazon.

Maybe you could post some of the ones you found available to you, and someone might be able to chime in? I imagine that the grade or purity level is the main concern here though.

Paul31733 · Sep 30, 2020

Paul31733 · Sep 30, 2020

BloopFish · Sep 30, 2020

Randy has replied about one of the tsp products before. Other reefers seemed to have tried it.

Trisodium phosphate

Can I use this to dose phosphate to my tank? https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.trisodium-phosphate-powder---400-g.1000130976.html

www.reef2reef.com

Paul31733 · Sep 30, 2020

Lybia · Sep 30, 2020

Paul31733 said:

I can't vouch or recommend this product at all personally. But if its food grade, I'm inclined to believe it may be safer than technical grade sodium nitrate

Kyl · Sep 30, 2020

Sodium and potassium nitrate are restricted goods up here, though you can still purchase them provided your information is recorded at time of sale. IIRC you are limited to the amount purchased, must declare it's use, and have a copy of your driver's license or government issued ID taken, since they can be used in the manufacture of explosives and they want to trace where all sales go.

Look to a freshwater planted tank vendor, they will know what's at play. I'm un-aware of what commercially available additives are actually sold up here, most aren't available.

Paul31733 · Sep 30, 2020

Kyl said:
Sodium and potassium nitrate are restricted goods up here, though you can still purchase them provided your information is recorded at time of sale. IIRC you are limited to the amount purchased, must declare it's use, and have a copy of your driver's license or government issued ID taken, since they can be used in the manufacture of explosives and they want to trace where all sales go.

Look to a freshwater planted tank vendor, they will know what's at play. I'm un-aware of what commercially available additives are actually sold up here, most aren't available.

Thanks no wonder I am having trouble...

Paul31733 · Sep 30, 2020

Would seachem phosphorus work ?

BloopFish · Sep 30, 2020

Paul31733 said:
Would seachem phosphorus work ?

Some people use this, you might be able to find out through a google search of "Seachem flourish phosphorous reef dosing"
Food grade may be better though.

Paul31733 · Sep 30, 2020

BloopFish said:
Some people use this, you might be able to find out through a google search of "Seachem flourish phosphorous reef dosing"
Food grade may be better though.

Thanks. I usually over research everything but I'm scared of getting Dino's now and don't know how much time I have...was looking for a quick answer but I guess I am the exception. Most people are trying to lower these not raise them...