Change From NoPox to Vinager?

[Mindi]

Thanks Randy... I will give it another week as the nitrate level is not serious yet.

 

[Christopher Presley]

I think I might have to try this DIY nopox myself!

 

[Mindi]

Well i can only tell you that the recipe above does not make the same thing. I might or might not get a result using it but a straight switch saw an immediate rise in my nitrates.

 

[Tony Thompson]

Well i can only tell you that the recipe above does not make the same thing. I might or might not get a result using it but a straight switch saw an immediate rise in my nitrates.

Interesting observation @Mindi , I am following your progress.

I must say that in my experience any changes you make to your routine, invariably produces a reaction one way or another. I tend to just stick with one method . If it works, than I leave it be. Maybe after a while things will balance back out again.

I think the trick is not to keep chasing your tail. It would appear that many of these methods are based on sound science and have proven effective. However I think you need to give it a little more time.

Good luck. Hope it works out for you.

 

[mitch91175]

I like the KISS approach so I just dose vinegar and call it a day. No formulas and widely available. Takes a while to get it going but once it there, just keep dosing. Added benefit it doesn’t cost much.

 

[LetItReef]

I like the KISS approach so I just dose vinegar and call it a day. No formulas and widely available. Takes a while to get it going but once it there, just keep dosing. Added benefit it doesn’t cost much.

Does dosing distilled vinegar also takes care of Po4 or just No3?

 

[mitch91175]

Does dosing distilled vinegar also takes care of Po4 or just No3?

Yes. Here is an article by Randy: http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index...ar-dosing-methodology-for-the-marine-aquarium

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Does dosing distilled vinegar also takes care of Po4 or just No3?

All organic carbon dosing (NOPOX, vinegar, vodka, etc.) is skewed toward nitrate removal due to the potential for denitrification, a process that reduces nitrate and not phosphate, but it will have some effect on both.

 

[rkpetersen]

Well i can only tell you that the recipe above does not make the same thing. I might or might not get a result using it but a straight switch saw an immediate rise in my nitrates.

Must be the missing acetone.

 

[LetItReef]

All organic carbon dosing (NOPOX, vinegar, vodka, etc.) is skewed toward nitrate removal due to the potential for denitrification, a process that reduces nitrate and not phosphate, but it will have some effect on both.

So mainly, Vinegar dosing reduces No3 and a little on Po4?
I will try dosing Vinegar and measure it closely.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

So mainly, Vinegar dosing reduces No3 and a little on Po4?
I will try dosing Vinegar and measure it closely.

That is the most common result.

 

[SPR1968]

FWIW, that discussion will really only help you make a DIY NOPOX, not really to distinguish whether such a method is better or worse than a different method, such as vinegar alone.

Both ways work well, but there are differences that may impact different systems in different ways (for example, whether there are unsightly species of bacteria already in your tank that are driven by either method)

From my original question this was the reason I personally decided to stay with NoPox as I didn’t want to risk feeding some other possibly unwanted species in my system and causing problems.

I went with the phrase ‘if it isn’t broke......’

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

From my original question this was the reason I personally decided to stay with NoPox as I didn’t want to risk feeding some other possibly unwanted species in my system and causing problems.

I went with the phrase ‘if it isn’t broke......’

NOPOX is a fine way to go, but with the only ingredient in vinegar being a main ingredient in NOPOX, you may be driving some or all of the same species. [emoji3]

 

[Lonely reefer's]

Hi everyone
I’m in the processed of making Nopox recipe above mention
NOPOX, you can always make your own by taking 500 mls vinegar (5%), 375 mls vodka (80 proof), and 125 mls RO/DI. This formula was determined by NMR analysis.
Nitrate ~50ppm,would like to low < 25ppm
Will report in a month

 

[SPR1968]

Hi everyone
I’m in the processed of making Nopox recipe above mention
NOPOX, you can always make your own by taking 500 mls vinegar (5%), 375 mls vodka (80 proof), and 125 mls RO/DI. This formula was determined by NMR analysis.
Nitrate ~50ppm,would like to low < 25ppm
Will report in a month

This (below) is what stopped me changing from Nopox in case it upset anything The full quote is on the first page. I didn’t want to risk upsetting anything in the system, especially bacteria

Both ways work well, but there are differences that may impact different systems in different ways (for example, whether there are unsightly species of bacteria already in your tank that are driven by either method)

It’s an interesting experiment to see how you get on