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Help! My clownfish is at the top of the tank and has a strange mark on him. What is it?The only other fish in the tank is another clownfish (mated pair). Should I remove the healthy one even though they are a pair?
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Help! My clownfish is at the top of the tank and has a strange mark on him. What is it?The only other fish in the tank is another clownfish (mated pair). Should I remove the healthy one even though they are a pair?
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Is it an open sore?

If so, I would pull it into a QT/Hospital tank, feed high quality foods to try and prevent a bacterial infection and allow the fish to heal.

If you start seeing an infection, read below: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/bacterial-infections.191511/

How to treat a bacterial infection: First off, there are many things you can do to prevent a bacterial infection from happening in the first place. Some of these include:
  • Maintaining a proper environment (i.e. clean water) for your fish to live in.
  • Separating two quarrelling fish before cuts/wounds get too serious.
  • Utilizing proper nutrition (i.e. nori, foods high in protein), and soaking fish food with vitamin supplements (examples: Selcon, Zoecon, Vita-chem; or even Omega-3 fish oil - props to Paul B for the fish oil recommendation). These will help boost your fish’s natural immune system.
  • Utilizing a fish QT - to prevent parasites and other nasties (including harmful gram negative bacteria) from being introduced into your DT. This will alleviate the possibility of a "secondary" bacterial infection popping up while the fish's immune system is already compromised from battling parasites.
  • Running a UV sterilizer may help in certain situations, as that will lower the overall number of harmful bacteria found in the water column.
When to medicate: Sometimes all the vitamins, proper nutrition and clean water are just not enough. Sometimes a fish's natural immune system needs a helping hand (like our own). When to QT and pull the trigger on using antibiotics is not an easy decision; it's a judgment call.

As a general rule, I only pull & treat if: (a) The fish looks really bad or (b) It is a newly acquired fish showing signs of infection. The latter is an easy call for me as I QT all new fish anyway. Below is a list of antibiotic medications you can use. It is not a comprehensive list by any means, but just some readily available options. Whatever medication you go with, be sure it contains broad spectrum or wide spectrum antibiotics capable of treating both gram-positive and gram-negative bacterial diseases.
  • Kanamycin (ex. Seachem Kanaplex)
  • Nitrofurazone (ex. Furan-2)
  • Nitrofuracin Green Powder (Great for treating “red sores” commonly seen on butterflyfish and some angelfish. It is also useful for healing wounds and treating ammonia burn.)
  • Triple Sulfa Powder (Good broad spectrum antibacterial medication; but IME can be harsh on certain fish.)
  • Erythromycin & Minocycline combination (ex. Maracyn 1 & 2). If you are confident it is just a gram positive infection, then API E.M. Erythromycin is a good choice.
  • For really bad infections, I advocate combining metronidazole (ex. Seachem MetroPlex), Furan-2 and Kanaplex to achieve a very broad spectrum of treatment. Props to “hedgedrew” for enlightening me of this.
More info about specific antibiotics: http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/AquariumMedication2.html

Although it is not optimal to do so, you can combine antibiotics with copper treatment or Chloroquine phosphate. Since I do not use hyposalinity to treat Ich, I have no experience using antibiotics in hypo conditions. I do not recommend mixing Prazipro with antibiotics, or any other medication for that matter. It is important to remember that every medication you use depletes the water of oxygen. Combining meds just exacerbates this. Therefore, it is absolutely imperative to provide additional gas exchange when treating.

DO NOT overdose antibiotics; if in doubt, always underdose. Antibiotics can be harsh on and even kill certain fish; although appetite suppression is much more common. Some advocate just applying antibiotic ointment to the affected area(s) topically, but I have zero experience doing that with fish. Antibiotics will kill some of the nitrifying bacteria in your bio-filter, but rarely wipes them all out to the point where you see an ammonia spike. However, for this reason and the negative impact antibiotics can have on corals/inverts, I strongly discourage their use in a DT.
 
Help! My clownfish is at the top of the tank and has a strange mark on him. What is it?The only other fish in the tank is another clownfish (mated pair). Should I remove the healthy one even though they are a pair?
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Are they paired or a proven mated pair? Looks as if someone was not happy with the other and took a nip. I've seen the female kill her mate for not doing his part with the care of cleaning LR nor tending the clutch.
 
I would move him to QT. Mated pair or not, this can cause issues of stress, and could also stress the other compromising her immune system too. Better to pull him now and try to reintroduce when he’s well than risk losing them both.
 
I would move him to QT. Mated pair or not, this can cause issues of stress, and could also stress the other compromising her immune system too. Better to pull him now and try to reintroduce when he’s well than risk losing them both.
Ok, I will move him to quarantine. I agree, better than loosing both
 
This fish could use a 90 minute bath in acriflavine (ruby Reef rally). Or Methalyne blue bath for 30 minutes. Between the DT and QT.

Most likely will need antibiotics as well.

Use NFG or the trifecta (Kanaplex, Metroplex, and Furan-2).
 
This fish could use a 90 minute bath in acriflavine (ruby Reef rally). Or Methalyne blue bath for 30 minutes. Between the DT and QT.

Most likely will need antibiotics as well.

Use NFG or the trifecta (Kanaplex, Metroplex, and Furan-2).
I currently don’t have any of those, but can go get them. However, I do have Pimafix and Melafix. Would treating the quarantine with that help?
 
I currently don’t have any of those, but can go get them. However, I do have Pimafix and Melafix. Would treating the quarantine with that help?

No, those are herbal remedies which only help when a fish has a mild infection. This is far too serious. Your clownfish either has a nasty gram negative bacterial infection or possibly uronema.
 
This fish could use a 90 minute bath in acriflavine (ruby Reef rally). Or Methalyne blue bath for 30 minutes. Between the DT and QT.

Most likely will need antibiotics as well.

Use NFG or the trifecta (Kanaplex, Metroplex, and Furan-2).
Should I use kanaplex, metroplex, and Furan at the same time?
 
Hello all, I have kanaplex, metroplex, and Furan and am currently treating the tank, but my clownfishs condition seems to be going downhill. He is breathing heavily and laying on the bottom kind of on his side. I added another air stone to the tank, but don’t know what to do. Any ideas?
 
I should also mention that I offered him some brine shrimp and he ate one shrimp, then lost interest in the rest of the food and went back to laying on the bottom.
 
Hello all, I have kanaplex, metroplex, and Furan and am currently treating the tank, but my clownfishs condition seems to be going downhill. He is breathing heavily and laying on the bottom kind of on his side. I added another air stone to the tank, but don’t know what to do. Any ideas?

A 90 min acriflavine bath might perk him up: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/acriflavine.282887/

Ruby Reef Rally contains 2 antiseptics (for infection) and a small amount of formalin (for brook/uronema); so using that product would probably be your best bet in this situation.

A formalin bath would be a more aggressive treatment option (for brook/uronema only): https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/formalin.290925/
 
Ok, will do. But if I add the fish back into the quarantine tank, wouldn’t he get infected again?
 
Sorry for all the questions, but is there anything else I can do to help my fish?
 
Looks like a pretty deep infection (based on the picture); those are often fatal. Probably would add cipro or triple sulfa soaked food just to give it a shot as the furans do nothing other than treat skin infections and same may be true for the kanaplex.
 

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