CO2 issues so I'll try an air hose!

I didn't leave it connected, but my pH goes up by 0.2 when I did run the outside airline. I would expect it to go up even more if my system were in a basement.

Gave up on the scrubber because I got tired of changing the media every 2 weeks. Fortunately, I sit around 7.9 to 8.0 so I just leave it now.
 
using outside air it makes about.1 difference in my ph. It took about two weeks to settle. Your tank is larger than mine, it is about 300 gallons. I feel because of the large water surface area and water movement I am still pulling a lot of co2 from the room, when the weather permits I open windows and can get another .2 increase in ph. . I have been thinking of using an ATS to help remove co2 along with the other benefits that go along with it. I am pulling large amounts of air through my skimmer but just not enough to fully overcome what is in the room.
 
I didn't leave it connected, but my pH goes up by 0.2 when I did run the outside airline. I would expect it to go up even more if my system were in a basement.

Gave up on the scrubber because I got tired of changing the media every 2 weeks. Fortunately, I sit around 7.9 to 8.0 so I just leave it now.
mine also sits around 7.9-8 with air to the outside and using calcium reactor. If I shut my skimmer off it quickly drops to 7.8
 
mine also sits around 7.9-8 with air to the outside and using calcium reactor. If I shut my skimmer off it quickly drops to 7.8
I'm thinking he might get better results with his air line since he has a large skimmer and his tank is in a fairly small fish room. Much different than if it were in an open house or larger room.
 
I'm thinking he might get better results with his air line since he has a large skimmer and his tank is in a fairly small fish room. Much different than if it were in an open house or larger room.
I agree as mine is open to entire home no door on the room.
 
Good news, bad news, good news!

Good news my PH went up!
Bad news it went up 0.02 so far.
Good news I ordered a CO2 scrubber from BRS!

As much as I love BRS, their scrubber media is way over priced. You can get the same thing from a veterinary supply place. I've used both and saw no difference at all other than price (and no % back, but that is more than made up with the savings.)
 
As much as I love BRS, their scrubber media is way over priced. You can get the same thing from a veterinary supply place. I've used both and saw no difference at all other than price (and no % back, but that is more than made up with the savings.)

would you be willing to share which one you use?
 
I know the problem. Rev spends all his time in his fish room. He forgets he is supposed to sit on the other side of the wall to drink his Yoohoo's so his CO2 doesn't contribute to the low pH! ;)
 
An alternate suggestion. I would advise getting a CO2 meter and testing what your levels are https://www.co2meter.com/ to see how big or little an issue you have with CO2. If they are at high levels in your house and/or basement then you can work on solving that rather than band aid it for the fish tank only IMO. It will much healthier for your family as well as your fish to lower CO2 levels in your home and basement if that is the solution. Wish you the best.
 
For those of you just starting to use outside air to feed your skimmer I'd give it two weeks to make a final decision on whether fresh air helps your ph or not. For me it wasn't an overnight fix, but took several weeks to slowly bring my ph up.
 
how about adding calcium hydroxide (limewater, kalkwasser) to help with lower PH? Never done it in a very large tank, but could help.

Thoughts?

Low pH Due to High Indoor Carbon Dioxide Levels

High indoor carbon dioxide levels can also lead to low pH problems in many tanks. Respiration by people and pets, the use of un-vented appliances burning natural gas (e.g., ovens and stoves) and the use of CaCO3/CO2 reactors can lead to high indoor carbon dioxide levels. The level of carbon dioxide can easily be more than twice that of exterior air, and this excess can substantially lower the pH. This problem is especially severe in newer, more airtight homes. It is unlikely to be a problem in homes like mine where the wind can be felt blowing around old window frames.

Many aquarists have found that opening a window near the tank can significantly raise the pH within a day or two. Unfortunately, those aquarists living in colder climates cannot comfortably open windows in the winter. Some have found it useful in these situations to run a pipe or tubing from the outside to the air input of a skimmer, where fresh, exterior air is rapidly mixed with the tank water. Be advised, though, that if the aquarist happens to live in an area where insecticides are periodically sprayed for mosquito control (such as in many metropolitan areas of the South), it is important to place some type of carbon filter at the air intake to prevent these chemicals from entering the aquarium.

Finally, the use of limewater in these situations can be an appropriate solution. Limewater may be especially effective in this situation because the tank would be less likely to experience the undesirably high pH that sometimes accompanies limewater use. While limewater is a common aquarium alkalinity supplement most potent at raising pH, other high pH additives would also suffice. Supplements based on carbonate, for example, would be very useful in this situation, while bicarbonate would not be. As a commercial example, the original B-ionic would be better than the newer version (Bicarbonate B-ionic). For home brews, washing soda (sodium carbonate) or baked baking soda would be better than normal baking soda (sodium bicarbonate).
 
Just my 2 cents worth here. I had all of the same issues. Never tried a scrubber because I simple had no room under my tank. I ran an airline tube outside for my skimmer with minimal results. I even had a fresh air exchanger put on my central air. Again only small results. My solution was a 100% Kalkwasser for all of my evaporation via a Kalk stirrer. Problem solved! Took about 2 weeks. I was initially concerned about my alkalinity but it hasn't been an issue.
 
Just my 2 cents worth here. I had all of the same issues. Never tried a scrubber because I simple had no room under my tank. I ran an airline tube outside for my skimmer with minimal results. I even had a fresh air exchanger put on my central air. Again only small results. My solution was a 100% Kalkwasser for all of my evaporation via a Kalk stirrer. Problem solved! Took about 2 weeks. I was initially concerned about my alkalinity but it hasn't been an issue.

I still use kalkwasser in my ATO in my air tight house and I have to dose alkalinity every other day to maintain 8-9dkh. In the Rev's tank, with it being large, his ATO with kalkwasser, may or may not help, but he could dose it separately or in conjunction with kalk in the ATO. Could work.
 

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