Collecting from the beach?

[ZipAdeeZoa]

Yeah they’re defitntly not going to let you through with a bag of beach sand in your carry on.

Bag it and toss it in your checked bag, pretty much anything that isn’t a narcotic/fire arm/explosive has always made it through. Kind if sad how easy is it to smuggle stuff

Same goes for shells, you might get lucky with a nice agent but its very unlikely you’ll fet shells through in a carry on, almost guarunteed to get it through in your checked bag. Unless they loose your luggage but then you have bigger probpems than the sand and shells;Hilarious

 

[fish farmer]

Yeah they’re defitntly not going to let you through with a bag of beach sand in your carry on.

Bag it and toss it in your checked bag, pretty much anything that isn’t a narcotic/fire arm/explosive has always made it through. Kind if sad how easy is it to smuggle stuff

Same goes for shells, you might get lucky with a nice agent but its very unlikely you’ll fet shells through in a carry on, almost guarunteed to get it through in your checked bag. Unless they loose your luggage but then you have bigger probpems than the sand and shells;Hilarious

I once brought some big fluffy ziplock bags of fresh cut rosemary from Arizona, not a problem. Another time I had a tiny first aid kit with some hurricane matches, got the bag search and later got a letter from TSA about what I did wrong and closed the case.

 

[MnFish1]

IM never sure why people would gather anything from the sand from a beach - unless its from a beach - that is not close to discharge from a sewage plant, etc etc. reef2reef doesn't need to answer this - just google it - the sand is contaminated (along many beaches in the world) with significant pathogens. Its unclear why anyone would take anything from them.

 

[Gareth elliott]

IM never sure why people would gather anything from the sand from a beach - unless its from a beach - that is not close to discharge from a sewage plant, etc etc. reef2reef doesn't need to answer this - just google it - the sand is contaminated (along many beaches in the world) with significant pathogens. Its unclear why anyone would take anything from them.

I collected sand and mud from the beaches and bays around me to culture some microscopic organisms in a separate tank as part of a plan for dealing with dinos. Part of this was diatoms as they have a faster reproduction rate. After several weeks of dosing nutrients including but not limited to N, P and Si(nls pellets was used for micro nutrients) added rock rubble from this tank to my display tank. Not that anyone else would ever repeat this, but was a reason i collected sand [emoji23]

 

[OpenOcean33]

IM never sure why people would gather anything from the sand from a beach - unless its from a beach - that is not close to discharge from a sewage plant, etc etc. reef2reef doesn't need to answer this - just google it - the sand is contaminated (along many beaches in the world) with significant pathogens. Its unclear why anyone would take anything from them.

I live near the 10,000 islands which I believe to be far enough away from this pollution as its a national state park, however, you never know and this is why I posted this to get all options like this. This is one of my biggest concerns. However, the 10,000 islands could be just as polluted since I'm sure everyone knows about are everglades problem down here with the lake ocachobee discharge and all causing all this toxic algae.

 

[OpenOcean33]

I collected sand and mud from the beaches and bays around me to culture some microscopic organisms in a separate tank as part of a plan for dealing with dinos. Part of this was diatoms as they have a faster reproduction rate. After several weeks of dosing nutrients including but not limited to N, P and Si(nls pellets was used for micro nutrients) added rock rubble from this tank to my display tank. Not that anyone else would ever repeat this, but was a reason i collected sand [emoji23]

This is one reason I am looking into it because I as well am fighting Dinos. I figured some nice (free)biodiversity would help me. But I want to study it a bit before adding itto my main tank and set up an experimental tank with a 10 gallon and see what happens.

 

[MnFish1]

This is one reason I am looking into it because I as well am fighting Dinos. I figured some nice (free)biodiversity would help me. But I want to study it a bit before adding itto my main tank and set up an experimental tank with a 10 gallon and see what happens.

that said = and its a valid point - many people fight dinos and have success without sand from a national park (i.e. those of us in the midwest

 

[Paul B]

I think many people thing way too much into this collecting sand thing. Throw the sand, mud or whatever you want into a bag and put it in your luggage. No one is going to arrest you for sand. Corals, maybe Cocaine, definitely, Anthrax, Check please. Don't worry about it and don't be a snowflake.

 

[Gareth elliott]

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/sodium-silicate.440963/

How i did this trying to avoid adding anything i didnt want to my aquarium.

Btw i never got a diatom bloom like i was attempting. Eventually the dinos were replaced by the ulva which i didnt mean to add to the dt. Must have been spores on the rock rubble as it was in the experiment tank. i added a dwarf angel who took about a week to eat all the ulva [emoji23]

 

[MnFish1]

I think many people thing way too much into this collecting sand thing. Throw the sand, mud or whatever you want into a bag and put it in your luggage. No one is going to arrest you for sand. Corals, maybe Cocaine, definitely, Anthrax, Check please. Don't worry about it and don't be a snowflake.

perhaps take a mangrove - or some dead kelp or an empty shell - the point is - if it doesnt help - it makes no sense - or>?

 

[Paul B]

Maybe not, but if you want some sand, just take it. I don't think anyone on here has ever heard of anyone getting the death penalty for taking an ounce of sand.

 

[MnFish1]

@Paul B you will like this - we went to Puerto Rico 15 + years ago - when we arrived back home my 4 year old said - look what I found - a hermit crab...... Well - it was "smuggled" abord the plane, etc - and arrived here - lol without detection - though the small scissors she managed to get inside was taken away. - in any case - it still lives lol.

 

[Gareth elliott]

Some of us are just overly inquisitive @PaulB lol. If i add X,Y,Z and theta for a problem and its fixed how do i know which part(s) helped?

To test each part after the fact would require even longer testing.

And yes i am that annoying one in meetings who argues every plan marketing makes [emoji23]

 

[OpenOcean33]

Some of us are just overly inquisitive @PaulB lol. If i add X,Y,Z and theta for a problem and its fixed how do i know which part(s) helped?

To test each part after the fact would require even longer testing.

And yes i am that annoying one in meetings who argues every plan marketing makes [emoji23]

agreed, Dinos are terrible, if it was so easy the thread wouldn't be the way it is ! haha, also I have a nice resource a short walk from the house, why not use it, especially for people ordering Fiji mud for so much money.. I have free mud lol.

 

[OpenOcean33]

Some of us are just overly inquisitive @PaulB lol. If i add X,Y,Z and theta for a problem and its fixed how do i know which part(s) helped?

To test each part after the fact would require even longer testing.

And yes i am that annoying one in meetings who argues every plan marketing makes [emoji23]

agreed, Dinos are terrible, if it was so easy the thread wouldn't be the way it is ! haha, also I have a nice resource a short walk from the house, why not use it, especially for people ordering Fiji mud for so much money.. I have free mud lol.

 

[chris85]

This is one reason I am looking into it because I as well am fighting Dinos. I figured some nice (free)biodiversity would help me. But I want to study it a bit before adding itto my main tank and set up an experimental tank with a 10 gallon and see what happens.

Look into the ulva thread for the dinos. Basically mash and strain the ulva and dump the juice in.

If you are looking for diversity you may want to look in an estuary or marsh type area. If you are looking to out compete dinos. I would look into local macro.

Good luck and happy collecting.

 

[ZipAdeeZoa]

perhaps take a mangrove - or some dead kelp or an empty shell - the point is - if it doesnt help - it makes no sense - or>?

Don’t take a mangrove... they really care about that... we we’re struggling to get the permits to trim mangroves on our property (not move- just trim, moving is a different permit) but before we could trim them a microburst happened on our property (essentially a hurricane so small nothing will happen to your neighbors but your place is a mess;Hilarious) so we didn’t end up needing a permit after all, in fact its taking a while to grow back to where we originally wanted it

Shells are fine in a checked bag unless they are a protected species but don’t think for a second that someone won’t stop you on the beach if its one that you can’t collect on or need permits for. Sanibel and captiva you can collect any shells that aren’t alive but the live ones are a really big no no... i think you can’t collect seahorses or starfish either (dead ones, I know you can’t take live ones).

I accidentelly brought some cockroaches from thailand back home and as soon as I saw them I threw the hole bag out into the snow for a week once I got back...

One thing I would lool into is how the currents move around the 10,000 islands and make sure nothing nasty moves through them, just because you can’t see the gunk doesn’t mean your not down stream from it.

@Paul B for checked bags I agree but for carry on they will confiscate your shells no matter how legally they were obtained unless you have a receipt from the store you bought them but by the time the agent is done verifying each kind of shell... your going to need to book another flight;Hilarious

 

[OpenOcean33]

Don’t take a mangrove... they really care about that... we we’re struggling to get the permits to trim mangroves on our property (not move- just trim, moving is a different permit) but before we could trim them a microburst happened on our property (essentially a hurricane so small nothing will happen to your neighbors but your place is a mess;Hilarious) so we didn’t end up needing a permit after all, in fact its taking a while to grow back to where we originally wanted it

Shells are fine in a checked bag unless they are a protected species but don’t think for a second that someone won’t stop you on the beach if its one that you can’t collect on or need permits for. Sanibel and captiva you can collect any shells that aren’t alive but the live ones are a really big no no... i think you can’t collect seahorses or starfish either (dead ones, I know you can’t take live ones).

I accidentelly brought some cockroaches from thailand back home and as soon as I saw them I threw the hole bag out into the snow for a week once I got back...

One thing I would lool into is how the currents move around the 10,000 islands and make sure nothing nasty moves through them, just because you can’t see the gunk doesn’t mean your not down stream from it.

@Paul B for checked bags I agree but for carry on they will confiscate your shells no matter how legally they were obtained unless you have a receipt from the store you bought them but by the time the agent is done verifying each kind of shell... your going to need to book another flight;Hilarious

I know in my area taking anything alive is a big no no. Signs everywhere.. but dead is ok including starfish/sanddollars and such. Shells are all ok, not sure about sand and algae though. And absoulety never the plants they even have those roped off at the beach.

 

[Paul B]

Before I started my tank I went to Hawaii and many of the Caribbean Islands. I always had a lap full of (dead) corals or rock on the flight back. They just looked at me funny. Now they would just shoot you.

 

[jtl]

Check with Ron Reefman he does volunteer work on Sanibel as a shell adviser and is an avid snorkeler. I know he often puts livestock from the Gulf and the Keys in his tanks. I live 3 blocks from the Gulf and would not put sand from the beach in my tank. Maybe if I could go a few miles off shore but not from the beach. What ever pathogen is in Red tide killed thousands of sea life and seeing that was enough warning for me.