comparing cheap vs high end powerhead

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has anyone ever try the cheap powerhead or wavemaker from ebay? i do own an ecotech mp10wqd and i know it a great one that really quiet and ability to control the flow, but recently i got some weird questions from my cousin that he going to setup a new tank and ask me why spending amost 300$ on just one powerhead while you can get one for 20$ on ebay that provide same amount of flow.
 
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I guess the main differences are controllability and reliability.

If you are going softies and lps only, the cheap pumps would probably get the job done.

Not to mention the vortechs have a nice in tank footprint
 
Value is largely a personal choice. I prefer the control and sophistication of something like a vortech ..... and likely longer useful life.
 
Using Jebao 40pp and a Jebao 40ow both pumps working great, very little noise. Good control over both pumps.
 
After owning vortechs, jeabos, hydors, tunzes and some others. Reliability, foot print and finer control of the higher end ones, makes me prefer them. I love the how clean vortechs look in a tank.
 
In my opinion you just can’t beat the nice clean looks of the radion Vortech series pumps
 
I use MP series, and as mentioned, ease of control, plus maintenance is much easier as I don't have to climb under my tank to unplug the powerhead to clean the wet side.
 
I don't know if I would use the $20 no-name powerheads. I would lean toward a brand like Jebao, which is more in the $50 range for their entry-level powerhead. I wouldn't necessarily call Jebao a "brand name," but they're at least a known entity. As to whether it's "worth it" to buy a $50 Jebao as opposed to a $250 MP10, that's a personal choice. I would personally buy the Jebao every time. I got a used MP10 and it work just fine, but I also have two Jebao PP-4s which have been running for 9 months and 18 months without issue.

There's no doubt an MP10 is higher quality than the equivalent Jebao (at 5 times the price, it better be higher quality). The MP10 will probably last longer as well. To me though, those are intangible "feel good" qualities. Ecotech has a reputation for quality, but how does that translate into real-world reliability? At the end of the day, Ecotech offers a one year warranty on their pumps. If your Vortech fails outside that one year warranty, you're hosed. Do many Ecotech pumps last longer than one year? Sure. Is that a guarantee? No way. To me, it doesn't matter that many people believe that "Ecotech" is a byword for quality: Ecotech tells me the longest that they're willing to guarantee their pumps is one year. That's too short for me, especially when they cost 5 times as much as the competing bargain pump.

Let's say your Jebao pump fails in 6 months and you have to buy another. You've still only spent $100 total ($50 on the first pump, $50 on the second), as opposed to the MP10 which cost $250. If we're pessimistic and assume the MP10 fails after one year, you would have come out ahead buying the Jebaos as opposed to the Vortechs. Let's assume that the MP10 has a more reasonable life of three years. Let's also assume the Jebao pumps have a relatively poor lifespan of 6 months. In three years, you will have bought 6 Jebaos for a total of $300. So even if your MP10 has a relatively good service life of three years and the Jebaos have a relatively bad service life of 6 months, you're still about breaking even by buying the Jebaos. And that's assuming that absolutely nothing goes wrong with your Vortech. If it does, the math is skewed even more in favor of the Jebaos. Plus, Jebaos seem to be hit or miss. If it fails, it'll fail in the first 6 months or so. If it doesn't, it will last a few years. So while you may get a dud that dies after 6 months, you might get one of the good ones that lasts a few years.

To each his own. At the end of the day, this is a hobby, and if aesthetics are incredibly important to you, then Vortechs might make the most sense. For me personally, value is the top priority. Every dollar I don't spend on equipment I can spend on livestock (or one of my other non-reefing hobbies). If Vortech pumps were guaranteed to last three years, the math would work out in their favor and I might never buy a Jebao again. Unfortunately, the longest they're guaranteed to last is one year. When you consider their cost and the cost of Jebaos, I can't justify the price of Ecotech pumps.
 
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This is an interesting topic. I am actually thinking about switching out my powerheads. Currently I am running 2 Jebao RW8 in my 40 breeder. I was thinking about adding an Ice Cap gyre 3k and keep one Jebao. Don't get me wrong, for the price I paid for these PHs, I really like my Jabaos. I got to use a MP10 for few months. I got it used, but it stopped working after couple of months. The time it worked it was really great. The flow I think was different then my Jebaos. But I don't know for me, if it was worth the price. I think the pricey powerheads have a longer life as opposed to their cheaper counter parts. But with proper maintenance Jebaos could last a long time. IMHO I think it boils down to which PW has better flow pattern. Is the price difference worth it?
 
I am an environmental engineer and my job has taken me to 43 of the 50 states, and I have been to more than a few reef stores around the country. Can't say how many times I have seen amazing frag and display tanks with cheap powerheads and the store owner have told me he is happy with it.

The way I see it, it's like having an expensive car for a road trip, there are a few comforts in choosing a luxury car over the economy, but if the roads are bad, you aren't going to enjoy it either ways.
 
One issue I ran into with the jebaos is controller interference. If you have 2 in one tank and 2 in another tank that's close enough to interfere with each other the slave master can get messed up and out of sync.

I spent another 100 and got the jbwave controller. I highly recommend it. Takes the jebaos to a whole other level. You only need one for 2 pumps and one would solve the interference issue above.

That being said I now have 2 jbwaves controlling 2xpp8 and 2xpp15s on a 210 for over a year and couldn't be happier
 
300-500$ for a piece of equipment that does nothing but move water. It’s hard to justify. And the crazy part is it’s marked up something ridiculous like 1000%

I see these kinds of comments all the time. My standard response is that you know this how? If you are privy to their balance sheet, do share. It's certainly fair to question, for you, the value in a $300 powerhead, but don't make ridiculous assertions on things you know nothing about. If you happen to be a former ETM employee with knowledge into their balance sheet ..... then I retract my comments.
 
I’ve been using Jebao for years. Yes, I have had 2 RW15 motors fail at a year. However, I still have my original wp25’s still going strong after 3-4 years. I purchased replacement motors for the rw15’s for $35 each shipped. I think I’ve seen new motor only on eBay for $30 recently. Just picked up 2 SW4 at $82 shipped for my frag tank build. Man those little pumps are cute, just saying don’t judge. I too struggle paying the Ecotech price. I have been happy so far with Jebao.
 

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