Confessions of a technologically-challenged reefer.

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“I’m not aware of too many things…I know what I know if you know what I mean…”- from the song "What I am" by Edie Brickell and The New Bohemians, 1988



Okay, I have a sort of confession to make…and frankly, it’s kind of embarrassing.

It’s not really a deep, dark, nasty secret- more of an admission…that I lack…something. (oh, I hear the innuendo jokes flying around...)

Yeah, I don’t think I have the “it factor” that many of you do when it comes to some reef stuff. I lack what I call the “Post Modern Reefing 'It' Factor.”

Huh? Read on..Maybe I’m not alone here? What exactly is this?

I love all of the new stuff that comes out- new aquatic gear, new pumps, electronics, etc. But I have to admit…with great humility…that I just don’t get a lot of it.

Really? Yeah. I mean, “Eco Smart Live”- totally cool..really neat to do all kinds of stuff with your iPhone…”Apex Fusion”…super awesome…I just don’t really understand how it works, other than I can get some cool information about my systems. Don't even mention “Mindspring” to me…my head might explode.

I think I'm just sort of...backwards.

Case in point- We have a cool Apex system, set up by our resident tech genius, Dave B. It reports all of the water parameters, turns the lights, chillers, heaters- all of that stuff on and off. I GET that. We even have a nifty “Star Trek”- type display on monitors when you enter our facility…I can interpret the data- Ph, ORP, Salinity, Temp…Yeah, I use that!

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The end product, I get...How it got there is beyond my ability to grasp...sigh.

But when I read about how to set one up…or hear about all of the modular capacity and bluetooth stuff and all of the ability to do this and that…my eyes..sort of..glaze over.

Look, I don’t think I’m THAT far behind the times…I have what I feel is a pretty good command of social media, I listen to the same music that my “millennial” niece and nephew do, and I am an all Apple kind of guy…It’s just that when people start to explain how this and that will make my reef keeping life easier, I am more compelled to just look at the fish and corals. I know, I know- I sound like one of those throwbacks- clinging to my dial up modem or analog devices…NO, I assure you, it’s not like that.


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It’s just that I don’t get some of this stuff. Don’t get me wrong. I think it’s great. The manufacturers have done amazing making gear that is more capable than ever before…The capabilities of the new generations of lights, controllers, and pumps is beyond anything we could have unimagined just a decade ago. I get that. My friend, Terence Fugazzi of Apex may be the best marketing guy in the biz, and has done a fabulous job of making Apex so good- and so popular! Their user forum is amazing, and filled with supportive people.

Patrick and the crew at EcoTech have similarly been phenomenal. Their stuff is so darn cool and so good. They’ve really tried to make it as simple and user friendly as possible for as many people as possible. Remarkable stuff that works so well together.

So what gives?

Again, I think it’s just me. I mean, I totally appreciate (or maybe I can’t totally appreciate) all the stuff that this amazing technology can do. These people and products are groundbreaking.

But as soon as you start showing me how you can integrate this and that and the other thing…I’m..out. Not “out” as in “forget about you!” I mean, “out” as in, I’m lost..just totally lost. Maybe it’s ADD, or maybe I’m just kind of... stupid (wait- don’t go there)…but I look at some of the killer tanks I have seen over the past few years, with amazing coral growth..and not all of them have every gadget known to man..or if they do, I virtually guarantee that NONE of them are using every one of the crazy features that these things have to achieve what they’ve achieved with their tanks.


It’s not that you CANT get there with all of these gadgets tricked out to the max…Of course you can. From my perspective, I just can’t fully understand them. It’s good that you can monitor this and that and control this device from your phone..I get that. But I wonder how you can get Joe Average refer (or “Joe Below Average Reefer, in my case) to actually understand really how these things work?

The manufacturers are superb. I know some of the people who make and market these things..and they’re brilliant. Really. It’s just that I literally feel stupid when they demo this stuff to me. I want to use it..I do use it..but probably no where near its capabilities- simply because I don’t UNDERSTAND the capabilities…And I can’t help but wonder how many reefers DO? Maybe it’s that I’m just not a gearhead, and I’m more interested in the corals and fishes than I am in the gadgetry. Fair enough.

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I totally get THIS stuff...

Still, I wonder: Can I really be the only one who’s head spins when they start “explaining” this stuff? I mean, am I really just a throwback guy who should stay out of the way when state of the art gear is discussed and implemented (well, maybe)? I can’t be. Can I? I rather fancy myself as a “trickle down” reefer. In other worlds, I’ll embrace the latest gadgetry and support those who make it. But when it comes time to use it, I’ll try to learn what I can, and ultimately use if for probably 10% of what it can do. I mean, it’s one thing to turn on my lights, and quite another to program multi-day lighting and flow sequences while activating my kalk dripper and closing my garage doors at predetermined hours- whatever. See? I just sort of drift off into a coma..


And then, I wonder if the technology is SO capable that it leaves a percentage of hobbyists behind..I’m not a technophobe- but I am confused. And I think I’d really use a lot of these features if I could understand them better. I guess I’m not a target market…but I should be, right? I’m probably the exact kind of busy reefer type that could ultimately benefit the most from this stuff. But instead, I use it for what I can, recommend it heartily, and probably understand 5% of its function…THAT is a shame. I know that I will be checking out the Apex User’s Meetup Group at MACNA- what a great way to learn about this stuff in more detail.


I need to lose my techno haze and dismiss the high school physics lab flashbacks that overcome me every time someone tries to explain to me how cool their new electronic thingamajig works. On the other hand, I can totally get behind LED lighting and stuff like that, even though I may not understand the joys of 120 degree beam angle versus 70 degree optics versus “X” amount of emitters per square inch of this-and-that brand (spend some time daily with Jake Adams, like I do, and you WILL learn some of this regardless!). What’s WRONG with me?

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To me, this is a bit more understandable..

The only real “fear” I have about this tech influx is that it will attract or appeal to certain types of people/reefers, who feel that, because the technology does all the “heavy lifting”, they can avoid the basics of “get-your-hands-wet” reefing. In other words, the gear does all the hard stuff and all they have to do is sit back and enjoy the pretty corals…I mean, you CAN do that, I suppose…for a while, at least…But not only will this be non-sustainable- I’d make the argument that you’ll actually miss out on the joys of the art of reef keeping, tortuously accumulated over several decades of development by thousands of our predecessors all over the world.

You don’t want to miss that “essence.”

And, in all fairness, I don’t think that many reefers who use these devices extensively ARE missing the “essence”- but I do imagine a small percentage of people who have fallen into that techno trap, if you will. I know a few of them. They're great at running the latest gear, but their reefs, well...anyways.

Another bad analogy, maybe:

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This will make my life easier..I suppose?

I read a ton of marketing blogs and such for business…and I constantly see lists of things like “The top 5 apps that will make your social media strategy easier”, “3 Apps your BTC business must have to stay competitive”- stuff like that. And what it boils down to, in some instances, is that you have to learn the complexities and quirks of several different apps just to “save time” on a task that, in reality, isn’t that onerous…You spend more time learning and using the app than you do taking on the supposedly tedious task some of these were meant to make easier! But I bet there is a large number of people who think that using these complicated apps and such is “THE” way to business success…And I wonder if they get so bogged down in the minute details of running these “productivity apps” that they become-well…unproductive.

SO, anyways- that’s my personal confession and cross to bear.

My advice to YOU- USE these systems! Learn all that you can about them. They’re amazing, wonderfully designed systems. And interact with the many, many cool people who work with them. They'll help you. Don’t be afraid. Support them. Use them. Learn what you can about them. They're great.

On the other hand, if your eyes glaze over, your head spins, and you start feeling faint when reefers talk about this stuff, don’t feel discouraged. Know that you can always try to learn this stuff if you desire- and more important- that you have a unique set of skills, knowledge, and experience that works for YOU…even if it’s not the latest Bluetooth-enabled, ultra-complex way of doing stuff…If you’re having success, feel good. Don’t ever be afraid to grow and learn, just don’t feel bad if the stuff that everyone else seems to drool over doesn’t do it for you.

I mean, why do people like Duncans so much? I don't get it.

Anyways, back to work. I’m getting an alarm from our Apex…and I need to check on the Vanadium level in one of our raceways, seems that our last Triton test indicated a slightly elevated level. And, doesn’t that talk stirrer on Raceway #5 need adjusting? Hmm..

Okay, stay with it…Stay current…stay YOURSELF!

And most important,

Stay Wet


Scott Fellman
Unique Corals






 
Great write up as usual Scott. I too am not very tech-savvy especially for being fairly young. I guess I just missed the boat when it came to technology. I have a full controller sitting in my closet for the past year because I can't for the life of me figure it out. Trying to find time when me and a tech-savvy reefer friend can get it hooked up. But like you I worry that having everything automated may not give me as much of a hands on experience with my reef that I like. Manually doseing my tank daily I am "forced" to look at the tank at least once a day no matter how busy I may be giving me the chance to take a look and see if something may seem a bit "off" and figure out what's going on. I think I have a sort of different out look on technology than many especially those my age. It reminds me of a great quote from Albert Einstein. (No I'm not calling tech-savvy reefers idiots, just s good quote about technology)
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Great quote...And I'm like you in that respect- Don't get me wrong- I love everything about technology- except figuring out how to use some of it! And technology should never be a crutch for lack of skill..it should be an enhancement,; a way to accomplish more- and more accurately- than we could without it. I just hate hearing stories of people who are clueless about reef keeping but have every gadget known to man while their aquarium is a mess because they have little basic skill. That's a fail on may levels, IMHO.

A story a reefer friend once told me in reference to auto top off systems holds true in my mind: "I've never seen a guy accidentally drain his tank completely during a manual water change...I know two people who managed to do it automatically while they slept."

And you're right- there is no substitute for actually looking at- and interacting with your tank; getting your hands wet- understanding what the visual cues, smells, and sounds all mean to your system. Regardless of your tech prowess and application- good skills to have!

-Scott
 
I can't listen to explanations like that either...here's a tip. Get the gadget in your hands and have them tell you, step-by-step, what to do for a particular outcome, and do it as they tell you (you'll need someone with a LOT of patience for this - I know from experience). Do this enough with different aims and you'll begin to understand how it works. :) Do as you learn, and you'll understand and remember it better, most likely.
 
First, great write up as always! I guess there is the hype and then there is the usefulness of all that. I am tech-savvy and it's ok, I do not feel stupid. Even when somebody as intelligent as Einstein says something like that. I guess he was a great physicist, but I am not sure how good of a psychologist or sociologist he was... Anyways, I actually agree with all that was said. It does takes time to learn, and sometimes I might get carried away. But, more than the time saving (which can really help) and the plain "not-important-but-cool" stuff, there is the accident-preventing, loss-avoiding side of it. Does it covers all the possibilities and prevent any type of accident? Of course not. Is it a substitution for adequate husbandry? Obviously not. But it does work to add redundancy and alarms that can be very valuable. A recent thread from Adam (Battlecorals) was a great example. I guess in the end, after all, this is what makes investing the money and the time justifiable for me. But, hey, I know you already knew that Scott, or you would not have a resident tech genius in your team...
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
CB
 
First, great write up as always! I guess there is the hype and then there is the usefulness of all that. I am tech-savvy and it's ok, I do not feel stupid. Even when somebody as intelligent as Einstein says something like that. I guess he was a great physicist, but I am not sure how good of a psychologist or sociologist he was... Anyways, I actually agree with all that was said. It does takes time to learn, and sometimes I might get carried away. But, more than the time saving (which can really help) and the plain "not-important-but-cool" stuff, there is the accident-preventing, loss-avoiding side of it. Does it covers all the possibilities and prevent any type of accident? Of course not. Is it a substitution for adequate husbandry? Obviously not. But it does work to add redundancy and alarms that can be very valuable. A recent thread from Adam (Battlecorals) was a great example. I guess in the end, after all, this is what makes investing the money and the time justifiable for me. But, hey, I know you already knew that Scott, or you would not have a resident tech genius in your team...
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
CB
LOL- Yeah, every aquatic business needs the resident tech genius! I really, truly love the tech, but I prefer paying someone to worry about how to implement it, LOL. It's funny, because I think it might just be "electronic-phobia" for me, because I totally dig the new skimmers, reactors, sumps, refugiums- stuff like that. But when it comes to programming and electronic stuff...eyes..glaze...over...:eek:
 
Scott I don't know how old you are but I'm in my mid sixties. I can look back over more than forty years of marine tanks. Almost every one was the height of the technology at the time. Even my first 55g with a full undergravel filter with two inches of crushed coral over it. The only equipment required was a glass hydrometer. And amazing as it was it managed to keep many varieties of marine fish alive. I remember building a large wet/dry filter back when they were just being promoted in Germany. The latest skimmer tech was air driven and I built a three foot tall counter current one with dual airstones and a high pressure air pump. Plenum systems, I still have one operating today. The thing is that tomorrows systems will soon make todays obsolete. Each one makes it possible to do better and better but even today that old undergravel system will still keep fish alive. Each of us has to decide whether todays systems are good enough for now or if we want to continue to quest after tomorrows systems.
 
The existing Aquarium Controllers, based on micro controllers, do an amazing job, but they were designed more than 10 years ago and run on underpowered processors.
This limits a lot the developer's ability to make the device user friendly. The tendency is that new models will run on more powerful Micro Computers (not micro controllers) and they will be called "Aquarium Computers". This will enable manufacturers to use a vast option of technologies, in order to make the device more user friendly, perhaps as friendly as an smartphone.

The lack of usability, customisation and power in the existing products, is what motivated me to jump into the never ending world of building Aquarium Computers.
 
I've got one of them there apexs. Purdy much just a glorified heater and light turner oner. Does keep me from having to do it though.
 
The existing Aquarium Controllers, based on micro controllers, do an amazing job, but they were designed more than 10 years ago and run on underpowered processors.
This limits a lot the developer's ability to make the device user friendly. The tendency is that new models will run on more powerful Micro Computers (not micro controllers) and they will be called "Aquarium Computers". This will enable manufacturers to use a vast option of technologies, in order to make the device more user friendly, perhaps as friendly as an smartphone.

The lack of usability, customisation and power in the existing products, is what motivated me to jump into the never ending world of building Aquarium Computers.

And when will THAT come out?! I can handle that I think. As long as the price tag isn't out of this world.
 
I have been reefing for 6 years and am just now getting an ATO, which I love but am scared to death of just getting an Apex controller for fear I will mess something up! My tank is my baby and I never want to have a 'crash' because of being too overwhelmed with the gadgets. I have come a long way with lots of research, this forum and just a few reefers that I know personally but I don't think high tech is always the way to go. So many systems are run with just basic principals and a little daily hands on. I think we are pressured, or atleast intrinsically feel pressure to get the latest and greatest but it's just not necessary. I'm comforted to know that other people's eyes glaze over with the high tech stuff, even ones who are in the 'business'. Thanks for the article. You are definitely in the company of others!
 
And when will THAT come out?! I can handle that I think. As long as the price tag isn't out of this world.

My vision is a software based solution. We all have old laptops and PCs and such that we could devote to an aquarium management computer. Hell, I have several old Surface Pros I can use! Mount one up in the cabinet and have a purdy display and everything!

Looking at the current state, it would cost as much or more than the Apex just for the hardware, excluding the PC and any software. So I bought an Apex. DIY only makes sense if you can do it either cheaper or significantly better. So I wait...
 
LOL, Good to know I'm not totally alone...

And the bottom line is- these are wonderful devices, and are probably great for busy people like us, and they are supported by some of the best minds in the business. For me, though- I just find it all sort of...well..overwhelming, I guess? I just don't understand things that spur us to "create needs" in order to justify the existence of things. I'm not naming controllers specifically, but some technologies or practices in general, as alluded to previously...It's weird, for example, that this generation of kids MUST have video screens in the seat backs of the family car, because it makes driving "more tolerable"..I mean, we got along just fine without them, right? Of course, a person disagreeing with my point could counter and say "Well, man hunted his food and lived in caves for eons before the supermarket came into being, so why don't you just go live in a cave..?"

It's an ongoing discussion, filled with personal viewpoints and attitudes. I guess for me, these devices are awesome, but there is no substitute for just looking at your tank. And just because you elect not to use one, or admit to not understanding the darned thing- or admit to not being interested in them- doesn't mean you're a "throwback", hater, or "scared." The data is important, but if you don't understand it's implications, it's not that useful. Anyone entering onto the hobby cannot forgo the "barrier to entry" of learning some basic skills and knowledge required to be a responsible aquarist. Gadgets help, but they don't automatically put you "in the front of the line" and let you bypass the knowledge acquisition phase of the reef hobby, IMHO. If we don't make this effort to understand the fundamentals, there's little point in having all of these devices.

Scott
 
If I got the Apex, I'd be using it as more of a failsafe than a do-all. Just need to know that if I'm gone and something happens, measures will be taken and I will be alerted.
 
Scott, first of all thanks for the plug for Neptune Systems, our Apex and other products, and me personally.

First off, it is apparent you have never sat in on one of my talks :) as I cover this exact issue you bring up. The "old guard" (and I mean that in the most flattering of ways) still sees aquarium monitoring and control systems as they did many years ago when they were introduced - only as something that replaces your tasks as a reef hobbyist. And while some of that is part of the equation it is far from the most important part.

The #1 reason people exit this awesome hobby is due to some catastrophic event - not just the cost, but the exasperation and heartache that accompanies such disaster. The vast majority of the time that event was preventable if they simply had knowledge that it was occurring. This is where the monitoring component is so vital. Of these catastrophes, water temperature and things that show themselves as leaky water are the #1 & #2 culprits. Installing something like the Apex and monitoring for these two things alone will likely pay for the Apex if you are in the hobby long enough - either preventing lost livestock or a lost marriage (in the case of water on the floor).

All kidding aside, though, look at something like an Apex as both an insurance policy and a swiss army knife. The insurance policy aspect I have already covered, but the Swiss Army knife concept is also an interesting one. Now, instead of having discrete pieces of hardware for timers, heater controllers, ph controllers, etc. (and paying for them all), you can roll it all into one. But, like a Swiss Army knife, if you like, you can just use the main blade and the toothpick! (Ah now there's the next Apex add-on, let me write that down).

Then you talk about manually doing things - as opposed to having the help of machines. How quaint. :) Our goal at Neptune Systems is Less Hassle, More Success. When any of us tell people that we keep saltwater aquariums, what is the #1 response we hear? "wow, doesn't that take a lot of work?". It does. So why not ease some of the burden. One reason to want less hassle is again to keep more people in the hobby. If having an aquarium becomes too demanding on our busy lives, and for steps that are just mundane like doing water top offs, well then eventually we might just decide it's not worth it. Why not have these mundane tasks done with a controller?

More Success. People with Aquarium Controllers on their reef aquariums, on the whole, are more successful. I know that will be a controversial statement for some and I might get a lot of flak for saying it, but I see it all the time. More stability, less "set backs", better understanding of parameters, etc. along with great hobbyists is a combination that can't be beat.

The next thing I will say might get raise the hair on your back. You currently run one of the best coral selling shops online, with thousands of gallons of water and thousands of corals. But this is not running a home aquarium. And, you have people. When was the last time you had to run, for/by yourself, the average 120 gallon reef tank? I think if you did this today, you would much much more inclined to be on board with this technology and would be embracing it for the success it brings.

One last thing on the complexity issue. The Apex today with Apex Fusion is not the Apex of a few years back. Today you can use it in its simplest form with our Get Started guides, videos and wizards and get tons of functionality with not so much technical know how. That said, if you want to fully geek out, you can do that too. The issue is that most people that post on forums are in the last group so this makes them seem much more intimidating than they really are.

So, I challenge you Scott to really make a go at it - embrace it. Set up a tank with one - a tank that only you take care of - and see if you can break free from your aqua-luddite bonds :D
 
Well Terence that's a pretty condescending attitude. Not everyone who feels they don't need a reef controller is someone with an IQ of 85. This forum has many people who want nothing more than to help others and share their experience and out of all the threads and posts I've read I've only seen someone rude when they pushing a product and someone disagreed with them.
 
Harold, I think maybe what you missed is that Scott is a friend who I have known for quite some time and have even hosted at my home. So the jabs I took at him were meant to be in a good-natured, humorous way. I did not come on here to just push our product - I was simply providing a response to some of his thoughts and another perspective on the subject. There are many ways to success in this hobby, that is for sure. Of course I am biased though that things are easier with our product.
 

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