Cyano or Dynos

[Dburr1014]

I read that some that leave during the night and come back as lights on for a bit are burrowing, not going into water column. Lol so many variables. I'm down to try UV also. I'll try anything to fix this lol. Given that Vetteguy's method is only 5 days long. I see no issue in trying it out, and if it doesn't work I'll pick up UV. Do you know what kind of dinos you had? Did you ID with microscope by any chance? I haven't read the 700 page new dino thread, but I'll get started on it now. Read another 9 page carbon dosing for dino thread. So much to read lol.

I did not "ID" mine but because they absolutely were gone at night and came back during the day, I was sure I had osteoporosis.
I ran my UV day and night for a couple weeks then only at night for a couple more months. I was dosing hydrogen peroxide at 1ml per 10 gallons also. They have been gone for some time now and a don't run a UV anymore.

I have never heard of them burrowing. That sounds a little ridiculous that they would actually go into the sand. There are types that are on the bed but I really don't think they burrow either.
Can you paste here where you read that? I would like to read about this.

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

No carbon dosing and most common species (amphi and ostreo and even cyano)

Out of curiosity, why no carbon dosing? It seems like it could help to boost the bacteria we're dosing? Have you had other reefers try both ever? Did non carbon dosing work better? Or is the no carbon dosing specific to me since my nutrients are close to 0 (some days 0)

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

I did not "ID" mine but because they absolutely were gone at night and came back during the day, I was sure I had osteoporosis.
I ran my UV day and night for a couple weeks then only at night for a couple more months. I was dosing hydrogen peroxide at 1ml per 10 gallons also. They have been gone for some time now and a don't run a UV anymore.

I have never heard of them burrowing. That sounds a little ridiculous that they would actually go into the sand. There are types that are on the bed but I really don't think they burrow either.
Can you paste here where you read that? I would like to read about this.

So you're suggesting Osteoporosis is the only one that leaves at night and comes back during the day? I thought I had heard of more, but there is so much info, it's hard to sort in my mind. I want to make a spreadsheet lol. I wonder if someone has a spreadsheet with images etc about each species or a thread that's concise ? Is it Tachira who seems to know a lot about these species in other threads? I'll try to find her (maybe my spellings off, tagging not coming up) @tachira

 

[vetteguy53081]

Out of curiosity, why no carbon dosing? It seems like it could help to boost the bacteria we're dosing? Have you had other reefers try both ever? Did non carbon dosing work better? Or is the no carbon dosing specific to me since my nutrients are close to 0 (some days 0)

It also lowers nitrate level and phosphate already low.
Get rid of flagellate cells the
It will be fine.

 

[sdreef]

So you're suggesting Osteoporosis is the only one that leaves at night and comes back during the day? I thought I had heard of more, but there is so much info, it's hard to sort in my mind. I want to make a spreadsheet lol. I wonder if someone has a spreadsheet with images etc about each species or a thread that's concise ? Is it Tachira who seems to know a lot about these species in other threads? I'll try to find her (maybe my spellings off, tagging not coming up) @tachira

@ScottB put together a nice article compiling and organizing a lot of the information out there.

A Dinoflagellate Treatment Guide

As the title suggests, this is intended as a short guide on what to do when you suspect dinoflagellates are trying to overtake your system. It is an attempt to boil down the protocols discussed across 11,000 posts in this "Are you Tired" thread...

www.reef2reef.com

Here's a thread with a PDF Dino ID guide by taricha

Dinoflagellate Identification Guide

I've had this laying around for a while. Had some recent interest, so I tweaked it a bit and am posting it. Not really about cures just ID pictures, videos, and a few short facts. Hope it can be helpful.

www.reef2reef.com

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

It also lowers nitrate level and phosphate already low.
Get rid of flagellate cells the
It will be fine.

Roger cap'n

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

@ScottB put together a nice article compiling and organizing a lot of the information out there.

A Dinoflagellate Treatment Guide

As the title suggests, this is intended as a short guide on what to do when you suspect dinoflagellates are trying to overtake your system. It is an attempt to boil down the protocols discussed across 11,000 posts in this "Are you Tired" thread...

www.reef2reef.com

Here's a thread with a PDF Dino ID guide by taricha

Dinoflagellate Identification Guide

I've had this laying around for a while. Had some recent interest, so I tweaked it a bit and am posting it. Not really about cures just ID pictures, videos, and a few short facts. Hope it can be helpful.

www.reef2reef.com

Ok so looking at the identification guide. It appears I may have prorocentrum. Anyone able to confirm this? I see no curved beak like LCA or SCA, no almond shape like Ostreopsis, not round like Coolia.

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

No carbon dosing and most common species (amphi and ostreo and even cyano)

You did not name Prorocentrum. Does it treat this type also? Taricha PDF suggests UV with change in conditions to get them into the water column “like short blackout”. What are your thoughts on this? I’m willing to buy a UV if needed. Obviously prefer not to drop $400 on 55w but will do it if needed lol

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

It also lowers nitrate level and phosphate already low.
Get rid of flagellate cells the
It will be fine.

Btw do you have a single thread where everyone can track and discuss this h202/bacteria/10% blue light method? Would be nice to discuss more of the details in one place like other methods.

 

[Dburr1014]

So you're suggesting Osteoporosis is the only one that leaves at night and comes back during the day? I thought I had heard of more, but there is so much info, it's hard to sort in my mind. I want to make a spreadsheet lol. I wonder if someone has a spreadsheet with images etc about each species or a thread that's concise ? Is it Tachira who seems to know a lot about these species in other threads? I'll try to find her (maybe my spellings off, tagging not coming up) @tachira

No, I'm not suggesting only one leaves at night and comes back during the day. I said that was the one I think I had.
I'm saying if you do have one that enters the water at night, your best bet is to use a uv.

 

[Dburr1014]

Ok so looking at the identification guide. It appears I may have prorocentrum. Anyone able to confirm this? I see no curved beak like LCA or SCA, no almond shape like Ostreopsis, not round like Coolia.

This is the one they say dose silicates I believe and is the worse one to get.

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

No, I'm not suggesting only one leaves at night and comes back during the day. I said that was the one I think I had.
I'm saying if you do have one that enters the water at night, your best bet is to use a uv.

Got it thanks

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

This is the one they say dose silicates I believe and is the worse one to get.

Wonderful lol. I'll keep digging, thanks

 

[vetteguy53081]

You did not name Prorocentrum. Does it treat this type also? Taricha PDF suggests UV with change in conditions to get them into the water column “like short blackout”. What are your thoughts on this? I’m willing to buy a UV if needed. Obviously prefer not to drop $400 on 55w but will do it if needed lol

No because its the least common of the typical varieties of dino and has same behavior of amphidium and can colonize on any surface. Treated by same method given.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Searching for help with dinos. I've seen you post this couple of times. How often does this work brotha? I'm trying this carbon dosing method from this thread. Any thoughts on it? https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/dinoflagelates-a-disruptive-treatment.926454/page-10#post-10843315 I can't remember if you commented in it. It's 9 pages so I don't want to read through again haha. What about trying both methods at once? And/or UV lol. Will post photo below of the dinos I'm dealing with.

It does and has helped many. Its quick and effective and cleared my tank easily in 4 days but I went 6 days.

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

It does and has helped many. Its quick and effective and cleared my tank easily in 4 days but I went 6 days.

Ok thanks. You should make one big thread on this method so we can battle test it and get lots of feedback and more specific details so people aren’t asking same questions over and over on different threads lol.

does it harm sps, shrimp, pods, or snails etc

 

[vetteguy53081]

Ok thanks. You should make one big thread on this method so we can battle test it and get lots of feedback and more specific details so people aren’t asking same questions over and over on different threads lol.

does it harm sps, shrimp, pods, or snails etc

No - safe. here is a before and after pics in a 660 gal when It happened:

BEFORE:

AFTER:

Day 3:

Day 10:

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

No - safe. here is a before and after pics in a 660 gal when It happened:

BEFORE:

AFTER:

Day 3:

Day 10:

Bro make a master thread about this lol This could be really helpful to a lot of people.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Bro make a master thread about this lol This could be really helpful to a lot of people.

A lot of people have done this step and succeeded. Problem with a thread is too many have their own method and practice and it will be a challenge thread opposed to informative

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

A lot of people have done this step and succeeded. Problem with a thread is too many have their own method and practice and it will be a challenge thread opposed to informative

But challenges are good for us to build knowledge I understand though, sometimes things get political on R2R ha.