Cyano or Dynos

[vetteguy53081]

Is it species dependent or works well with all Dino? Do you recommend I try it in conjunction with the carbon dosing method or just by itself?

No carbon dosing and most common species (amphi and ostreo and even cyano)

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

No carbon dosing and most common species (amphi and ostreo and even cyano)

Awesome. Ok I’ll switch to your method. I’m also worried about the carbon dosing method for my situation anyways because my phosphate and nitrate are very low as is, actually tested 0 nitrate, 0.01 phosphate 3 days ago. So I’m worried about my coral using the carbon dosing method. Would you suggest I dose nitrates and phosphates while using your method?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Awesome. Ok I’ll switch to your method. I’m also worried about the carbon dosing method for my situation anyways because my phosphate and nitrate are very low as is, actually tested 0 nitrate, 0.01 phosphate 3 days ago. So I’m worried about my coral using the carbon dosing method. Would you suggest I dose nitrates and phosphates while using your method?

Focus first on dino then address the no3 and po4 after the 5 days

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

Focus first on dino then address the no3 and po4 after the 5 days

Ok. What settings should I use in mobius with my radions? You said white off, blues 10-15%. What about all these other colors? UV, violet, lime, red?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Ok. What settings should I use in mobius with my radions? You said white off, blues 10-15%. What about all these other colors? UV, violet, lime, red?

10% blue
- no red-green or uv

 

[branbray07]

10% blue
- no red-green or uv

I actually did 48 hrs complete blackout, the. 20% blues only for 4 days while on treatment.

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

having experience with this and helping many, its dino.
Prepare by starting with a water change and blow this stuff loose with a turkey baster and siphon up loose particles.
Turn lights off (at least white and run blue at 10-15% IF you have light dependant corals) for 5 days and at night dose 1ml of 3% hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons for all 5 nights. If you dont have light dependent coral- turn all lights off.
During the day dose 1ml of liquid bacteria (such as bacter 7 or XLM) per 10 gallons.
Clean filters daily and DO NOT FEED CORAL FOODS OR ADD NOPOX as it is food for dinos.
Day 5,, you can start with blue lights - ramping up and work your white lights up slowly

LFS nearby doesn't have Microbacter 7 or XLM. Only bacteria product they have on hand right now is Dr. Tim's but that's basic nitrifying bacteria I think? Would this help or should I start the hydrogen peroxide and lighting down, and wait for Microbacter 7 which would come tomorrow in mail from Amazon.

I actually did 48 hrs complete blackout, the. 20% blues only for 4 days while on treatment.

do you have coral? I have mostly LPS and softies but do have some sps like montipora and acropora.

I wonder also, what do I do about my refugium light? I’ve got some coral down there. Currently I’ve got it turned down to 4hrs/day because I’m trying to get my nitrates and phosphates up which are both either 0 or close to it most days lately. It’s a more reddish LED mostly for macro algae.

 

[branbray07]

LFS nearby doesn't have Microbacter 7 or XLM. Only bacteria product they have on hand right now is Dr. Tim's but that's basic nitrifying bacteria I think? Would this help or should I start the hydrogen peroxide and lighting down, and wait for Microbacter 7 which would come tomorrow in mail from Amazon.

do you have coral? I have mostly LPS and softies but do have some sps like montipora and acropora.

I wonder also, what do I do about my refugium light? I’ve got some coral down there. Currently I’ve got it turned down to 4hrs/day because I’m trying to get my nitrates and phosphates up which are both either 0 or close to it most days lately. It’s a more reddish LED mostly for macro algae.

At the time i had lost all sps, the only thing i had were lps. Dinos basically wiped my tank.

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

At the time i had lost all sps, the only thing i had were lps. Dinos basically wiped my tank.

Wow how do they wipe corals so badly? If I continue to blow them off can they still wipe corals? I do notice some of my daisy polyps and zoas have been a little closed up lately. Do they hurt them? Or is it some toxin in water column?

 

[Idech]

At the time i had lost all sps, the only thing i had were lps. Dinos basically wiped my tank.

Everything is okay now and remaining corals recovered ?

 

[tydeck]

I have well one hundred persons who got through their battle successfully

Beat mine using a similar method. I used calcium carbonate solution. With a black out. added pods And micobacter something. blew off the rocks and water change before anything

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

Beat mine using a similar method. I used calcium carbonate solution. With a black out. added pods And micobacter something. blew off the rocks and water change before anything

Calcium carbonate is similar to hydrogen peroxide?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Calcium carbonate is similar to hydrogen peroxide?

No

 

[Dburr1014]

Do your Dino enter the water column at night? In other words, gone first thing when lights come on but then get worse thru the day?
If they do, get yourself a uv light.
I tried vetteguy53081's way for months with nothing happening. Once the uv went on, just a few weeks and they dwindled to nothing. I only ran it at night.
Lights out is only a temporary solution.

 

[tydeck]

Calcium carbonate is similar to hydrogen peroxide?

No idea but the general idea is similar.

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

Beat mine using a similar method. I used calcium carbonate solution. With a black out. added pods And micobacter something. blew off the rocks and water change before anything

This is not similar to h202 vetteguy says? Were you just explaining a bit loosely or am I missing something?

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

having experience with this and helping many, its dino.
Prepare by starting with a water change and blow this stuff loose with a turkey baster and siphon up loose particles.
Turn lights off (at least white and run blue at 10-15% IF you have light dependant corals) for 5 days and at night dose 1ml of 3% hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons for all 5 nights. If you dont have light dependent coral- turn all lights off.
During the day dose 1ml of liquid bacteria (such as bacter 7 or XLM) per 10 gallons.
Clean filters daily and DO NOT FEED CORAL FOODS OR ADD NOPOX as it is food for dinos.
Day 5,, you can start with blue lights - ramping up and work your white lights up slowly

Assuming:
No skimmer?
No Carbon media?

 

[tydeck]

This is not similar to h202 vetteguy says? Were you just explaining a bit loosely or am I missing something?

Apparently very loosely. I’ll bow out.

 

[Bitcoin Reefer]

Do your Dino enter the water column at night? In other words, gone first thing when lights come on but then get worse thru the day?
If they do, get yourself a uv light.
I tried vetteguy53081's way for months with nothing happening. Once the uv went on, just a few weeks and they dwindled to nothing. I only ran it at night.
Lights out is only a temporary solution.

I read that some that leave during the night and come back as lights on for a bit are burrowing, not going into water column. Lol so many variables. I'm down to try UV also. I'll try anything to fix this lol. Given that Vetteguy's method is only 5 days long. I see no issue in trying it out, and if it doesn't work I'll pick up UV. Do you know what kind of dinos you had? Did you ID with microscope by any chance? I haven't read the 700 page new dino thread, but I'll get started on it now. Read another 9 page carbon dosing for dino thread. So much to read lol.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Assuming:
No skimmer?
No Carbon media?

You can skim but empty cup daily
No carbon for now