Cyanobacteria - questions, answers and solution

Yes rock and bacterial populated live sand can be sources also but this was not included as these are not a "transmission" source, these are possible initial introductions.
Yes once a tank gets cyanobacteria it will come and go during the cycles throughout the year based on tank diversity.
My goal was to eliminate it permanently from a system unless reintroduced.
 
Yes rock and bacterial populated live sand can be sources also but this was not included as these are not a "transmission" source, these are possible initial introductions.
Yes once a tank gets cyanobacteria it will come and go during the cycles throughout the year based on tank diversity.
My goal was to eliminate it permanently from a system unless reintroduced.

I have thought of Cyanobacteria as an opportunistic infection and not really "transmission" from a single source. When conditions are ripe, the Cyanobacteria dominate/explode in their numbers, i.e., when the tanks ecosystem is unbalanced somehow, the Cyanobacteria opportunistically take advantage. I think they are probably part of most saltwater tanks ecosystem albeit typically in small enough numbers to be non-problematic.

Although I imagine that it is possible that a single transmission can lead to an outbreak, it just doesn't seem to biologically make sense. I think Cyanobacteria are likely sharing our tanks with many other bacteria. I believe bacteria enter our tanks in countless ways. I imagine that Cyanobacteria are routine inhabitants in our tanks and are in a delicate balance with other bacteria and inhabitants. In terms of fish, corals and inverts being the source of a single transmission, most reefers are always fiddling with the tank and adding or changing their coral and fish regularly. So if a coral, invert or fish were the most routine direct transmission of Cyanobacteria, I might expect a wealth of reports when a new coral, fish and invertebrate was added and a resultant outbreak occurred. Except for your recent report of cross-contamination, I am unaware of seeing or reading of such reports. So I can certainly imagine cyano being associated with fish, coral and inverts, I just don't think that one new livestock addition as being the source for a cyano outbreak. In terms of what tips the balance in favor of cyanos over other bacteria and allowing for an outbreak, I don't know specifically. I think reasonable stable parameters and biological diversity of a healthy prospering tank likely keep cyano undetectable in the majority of tanks.

Eliminating a bacteria completely is a remarkable goal. I would think Cyanobacteria are likely endemic to saltwater tanks given their role in oxygenating our planet and their presence in the oceans as are likely a myriad of other bacterial inhabitants. It would seem cyano most likely are a constant player among the many bacteria out there. Biologically, I think expecting a 100% kill may simply not be possible given the many micro environments available in a reef tank. But clearly, whether 100% kill or not, hydrogen peroxide treatment certainly has been remarkable in effectuating a treatment for an acute cyano outbreak.
 
Thanks for your video - I have confirmed its cyno. I am confused on the dosing. My calculation is 15ml based upon your suggestion. Does that mean I dose 15ml at one time and I do this every 12 hours ? So I would dose twice a day?
Thanks for your help
Bruce
 
Hi Bruce yes 15ml twice a day for 14 days
 
This has absolutely zero change to benificial bacteria based on amonia testing
 
Well, after 14 days of dosing H2O2, the cyano I had seems to have went away for the most part. Still seems to be a little hanging around, but def less.

I am the same, I still have a patch hanging on. I am concidering going for another week with H2O2. Unless i had a combination of Cyno and Spirulina.
 
I am the same, I still have a patch hanging on. I am concidering going for another week with H2O2. Unless i had a combination of Cyno and Spirulina.
It is highly likely that you also have spirulina
 
Any idea if H2O2 can be used with a probiotic system like the Aquaforest System that consists of dosing probiotic bacteria and food for that bacteria?
 
Any idea if H2O2 can be used with a probiotic system like the Aquaforest System that consists of dosing probiotic bacteria and food for that bacteria?
I have not found any evidence that h2o2 is harmful to any of our good bacteria
 
Since H2o2 is not considered to be a dissolved organic compound - carbon,gfo and skimming should have no effect on the H2o2?
You are correct
Although through observation there is a reaction with GFO
It produces excelerated reduction of po4
 
The best method I have found to avoid and eradicate is with mangroves in the refugium. Mist the leave regularly to allow the plant to excrete the salt and remove the dead leaves.
 

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