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Hello,
I have a 120 gallon display with a corner overflow. The filtration is in a 30 gallon breeder with a filter sock, ATI PowerCone IS-250 protein skimmer and Vertex RX-Z 1.5 Liter ZEOvit reactor with about 750 mL of ZEOliths. I do run ROX 0.8 carbon and GFO in separate mesh bags in the sump. I also dose lanthanum chloride as needed to lower PO4. I have a Jebao DC 6000 return pump and one Jebao RW-15 powerhead in the display. I originally dried the live rock out for three days and re-cured it for the 14 day initial ZEO cycle with no major issues. The tank has been up and running for 5 months now and the live rocks are completely covered with long strains of green hair algae and now I am beginning to have cyanobacteria growth on the sand bed. I have mix of Tonga, Pukani and Kaelini live rock which is about 100 pounds and 60 pounds of Tropic Eden Reefflakes sand. I was following the ZEO dosing schedule to the T until I started seeing the algae take over and now I have backed off to basically dosing only bacteria. I was dosing ZEObak, ZEOstart3, ZEOfood7, Sponge Power and KZ Coral Snow. I have also tried ZEOzym and mixing up the bacteria sources by using Microbacter7 and Special Blend. I have an assortment of Turbo Snails, Cerith Snails, Queen Conch, Blue Leg Hermit Crabs and now even a Sea Hare to rid the hair algae but nothing will touch it. I have three fairy wrasse's, one tailspot blenny, and two anthias in the tank. Maybe a tang would eat the algae? I feed frozen food twice a week but the fish mostly eat pellet food once or twice a day. I was thinking maybe the live rock is leaching out nutrients which is why only the rocks have green hair algae and not the overflow or glass/substrate. I try to stick with performing 30 gallon water changes with Tropic Marin Pro Reef sea salt and I do use a automatic doser to balance my alkalinity and calcium. My current parameters are as follows:

Salinity: 1.025 (33 ppt)
pH: 8.1
Alkalinity: 8 dKH
Calcium: 420
Magnesium: 1380
Potassium: 380
Nitrate: 2.5
Phosphate: 0.05 ppm

I have stopped dosing ZEOstart3 because I do register nitrates when I test and I don't want to fuel my algae bloom further. I currently run two 250 watt Phoenix 14K metal halides for 5 hours a day (3 month old bulbs) and two 54 watt ATI Pure Actinic T5's for 9 hours a day (3 months old). The first day I added the Sea Hare it ate a good amount of the algae on one portion of live rock but ever since it only hides during the day or berries under the sand, I haven't seen it eat anything. From the lack of ZEO dosing and lowering my nutrients I do seen a lightening in my SPS corals and they seem to really be suffering from all of this, not only from the lack of additives but also the algae stressing the bases of the corals. I try to brush as much of the algae off with a toothbrush but it grows back in two days. I even tried leaving the tank dark for three days but it did not kill the green hair algae just the cyano. Maybe the rocks will take a full year before they are gone leaching into the water column fueling the hair algae? Please help me as I am almost ready to give up out of frustration.
 
You're using RODI water, right?

Lower end light seems to also contribute a bit due to the spectrum.

You want as little dissolved organics in your tank as possible. Keep nitrates as low as possible.
 
Take rocks with algae and move to dark sump or separate dark holding tank, if you can.
Water change.
Too much nitrates and phosphates. ( You can get low readings because algae is using it. But hair algae is usually caused by over feeding . )
Change cartridges on RO/DI unit.
 
I was having a similar issue. I had a huge cleanup crew helped but they couldn't keep upt. I ended up getting a lawnmower blenny and sea hare. The sea hare didn't do much but the lawnmower gotten most of the algae. I still have a couple spots but seems to be getting better.
 
Also, most tangs do not eat hair algae. Some do, but most don't. I've heard of sailfins occasionally eating it and sometimes Kole tangs but never seen it personally.
 
Phosphates are 0.05 ppm (Hanna Checker) Nitrates are 2.5 (Salifert). That is a pretty low nutrient system, if both levels were 0 my corals would be white. I think the nutrients from the ZEO additives created the algae bloom but feeding pellets daily and frozen food twice a week is not adding excessive nutrients. I have a light fish load and the feeding is minimal compared to my previous builds. I would have thought the nutrients would be gone by now after performing large weekly water changes.
 
I will cut back my feeding to feeding pellets once every other day and no frozen food. My main concern is the tank is all SPS and the colors are really pale, usually if the nutrients were too high the corals would be brown (from my past experiences).
 
Thanks 3fordfamily

My name is Todd and have been doing this for 20 years.
May I ask your name?

Jason, roughly 12 years. 3-7 tanks at a time. I need saltwater anonymous
 
I believe the ZEOstart3 is a nitrate source (nitrate and ascorbic acid) and feeding the green hair algae.
In my experience the less stuff I dose the fewer troubles I have. Regular water changes negate the need for most additives, IMO.

Sometimes less is more.
 
Increasing flow can almost never hurt as well. Almost.

Oftentimes adjusting current wave makers and power heads for optimum movement will do the trick
 
Ricky it seems as if the rocks are leaching "fuel" for nuisance algae. Im guessing there was die off deep within the rock. You may not even detect anything because the algae is taking it up as it's being released. My reef took about 7 moths to fully come around. You may have to wait it out. It'll will soon come around. Just my opinion.
 

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