NumberFish
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I was just wondering if anyone saw any new LED tech at MACNA worth mentioning. I know about the Radion G4 announced before MACNA and the Kessil A80. Anything else?
Did anyone see new LED tech at MACNA worth mentioning?
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The Maxspect Ethereal. The tank mount looked awesome and light was putting out a lot of power. To me though the best looking light was the AP700. There is just something about that light that makes the tank look so natural. I thought the Radion G4 tank looked washed out for some reason, kinda hard to explain.
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I do like the look of the Ethereals and am glad that they are finally shipping. However, I am surprised that there were no major announcements or followup demos regarding new LED technology. Am I too impatient or was there really nothing new.Other than t he ones mentioned above?
Yea the most impressive was the ap700. Not a high power light but the optics scheme is pretty brilliant. It was over a 48in tank and was lit almost perfectly evenly. I metered it with an actual light meter.
For an average reefer. Not like me. I'd reccomend it in a heartbeat.
The other was geismann auroura no booth but coral view had on in the booth that was candy apple red. I would trade my car for that. I did offer.
For an average reefer. Not like me. I'd reccomend it in a heartbeat.
The other was geismann auroura no booth but coral view had on in the booth that was candy apple red. I would trade my car for that. I did offer.
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NumberFish
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Are you saying that you do not feel it (AP700) is powerful enough for an SPS tank as you saw it mounted? By the way, about how high was it from the water?
This high.
It depends on what you belive about the amount of light need for high light animals. I don't belive you would get 400 to 500 par at the top of that tank. Maybe 400 So I'd guess 200 to300 high to mid tank.
I could be wrong.
Not to be rude but a lepto is an SPS and likes very low light so I make the differentiation there. High light animals.
I do belive it's good for BTA probably clam growth and med high par animals. I'm waiting to see more par data on the light. All I've see is seneye data and most all of those don't make sense.
If you want much higher levels this is not your light or mine right now. If I had a 48in Red Sea display tank and normal corals (or brain[emoji1]) I'd jump on it.
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NumberFish
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So the geismann aurora was nice as well, but no other standout led lighting?
Emitter tech is pretty mature. Also remember that the aquarium folk are at mercy of the people who actually make the emitters like Philips and Cree. Their goal is increasing lumens per watt and not much anything else. Aquarium manufacturers need to start focusing on making the spread better as that is where most lack. I am still waiting for the one company that takes a super tightly packed cluster and puts a big reflector on it. That will basically make it a low power halide.
Youll have to understand. Im pretty jaded about light. trends come and go, groundbreakers are rare. Using the light correctly, and debunking the hype and claims, and using the tool correctly is much more important to me.And fwiw you can grow coral under a phillps par 38 led. Ive seen it done, and I now own those corals.
I was much more impressed to learn. Ora uses natural sunlight in thier tanks and natural seawater too, I met the lady who is in charge.
Best quote of Macna
"A photon is a photon is a photon. In the right spectrum and correct intensity, it will grow coral"- Dr Sanjay Yoshi
You should really look at what kessil did on the Ap700. its exactly what you are saying. The spread was almost dead even on 48in from 2 emitters. that is mind blowing. I lost 5000 lux from the center to the edge.
A radion IMO is most commonly MIS used from what is see.
I want one with 4 emitters. yes please thank you.
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I guess that is what I was hoping to see. LED light kits with 60-90 degree lenses almost seem ancient technology, however if you put enough of them over a tank you get great coverage, but then you lose the cost advantage to greater coverage and less shading with a LED only option.
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Sweet! Does it meet with your expectations!
Not setup yet. I am switching to a canopy like BRS did with their 160. I am actually copying the BRS 160 setup with the AP700 and then quad t5 retro. All of that is going on a 24x24x16 tank
HAHAHAHAAYeah Kessil is the closest I have seen so far. I bought an AP700 at the show
got a par meter? I need a favor
