Dino type confirmation plz

[rwreef]

I have been battling these guys for a few weeks now and finally purchased a microscope to ID my issue. I believe I am dealing with Amphidinium dinos, but would love confirmation/feedback.

Here are some pics ..I am working a video upload also..

Here is the video

 

[bvanfish]

@_Jake_Simek_ posted this and it was incredibly helpful for me. I am a total noob but maybe they are Prorocentrum

https://www.reef2reef.com/attachments/dinoflagellateid12_12_2019-pdf.2925012/

 

[dwest]

Prorocentrum I believe
@taricha

 

[Idech]

I vote prorocentrum as well. That’s what I had (the second time).

 

[rwreef]

I vote prorocentrum as well. That’s what I had (the second time).

Any tips to beating it? Seems like UV is one item heavily suggested?

I should mention, my nitrates/phosphates were at 0 (classic) I have since raised them...nitrates at 20ppm (working to get down to 5-10ish), phosphates at 0.02ppm. I also have been dosing microbacter7 and no water changes in an attempt to make my tank dirtier. I have not done any blackout with lights, but I did turn off fuge light for several days.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I have been battling these guys for a few weeks now and finally purchased a microscope to ID my issue. I believe I am dealing with Amphidinium dinos, but would love confirmation/feedback.

Here are some pics ..I am working a video upload also..

Here is the video

This is small cell dino and would be amphidinium.
Prepare by starting with a water change and blow this stuff loose with a turkey baster and siphon up loose particles. Turn lights off (at least white and run blue at 10-15% IF you have light dependant corals) for 5 days and at night dose 1ml of 3% hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons for all 5 nights. If you dont have light dependent coral- turn all lights off. During the day dose 1ml of liquid bacteria (such as micro bacter 7 or XLM) per 10 gallons. Clean filters daily and DO NOT FEED CORAL FOODS OR ADD NOPOX

 

[Reef and Dive]

Prorocentrum I believe
@taricha

Agree

 

[BuddyBonButt]

My vote goes for proroCentrum

 

[Reef and Dive]

Any tips to beating it? Seems like UV is one item heavily suggested?

I should mention, my nitrates/phosphates were at 0 (classic) I have since raised them...nitrates at 20ppm (working to get down to 5-10ish), phosphates at 0.02ppm. I also have been dosing microbacter7 and no water changes in an attempt to make my tank dirtier. I have not done any blackout with lights, but I did turn off fuge light for several days.

No UV for those. Check this review of methods by @ScottB :

A Dinoflagellate Treatment Guide

As the title suggests, this is intended as a short guide on what to do when you suspect dinoflagellates are trying to overtake your system. It is an attempt to boil down the protocols discussed across 11,000 posts in this "Are you Tired" thread...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[rwreef]

No UV for those. Check this review of methods by @ScottB :

A Dinoflagellate Treatment Guide

As the title suggests, this is intended as a short guide on what to do when you suspect dinoflagellates are trying to overtake your system. It is an attempt to boil down the protocols discussed across 11,000 posts in this "Are you Tired" thread...

www.reef2reef.com

I am confused now . Does everyone agree that this is Prorocentrum? After looking at the ID guides further , I believe it is Prorocentrum. I can try to get better pics/video at a higher magnification if that helps.
The link you provided talks about UV as a solution for Prorocentrum. Maybe I am missing something (probably). Any further clarification is greatly appreciated, thank you!

 

[rwreef]

This is small cell dino and would be amphidinium.
Prepare by starting with a water change and blow this stuff loose with a turkey baster and siphon up loose particles. Turn lights off (at least white and run blue at 10-15% IF you have light dependant corals) for 5 days and at night dose 1ml of 3% hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons for all 5 nights. If you dont have light dependent coral- turn all lights off. During the day dose 1ml of liquid bacteria (such as micro bacter 7 or XLM) per 10 gallons. Clean filters daily and DO NOT FEED CORAL FOODS OR ADD NOPOX

What tells you that it isn't Prorocentrum? I am not sure I see any sign of a beak, but will try to get a higher magnification shot of these guys.

 

[salt creap]

This is small cell dino and would be amphidinium.
Prepare by starting with a water change and blow this stuff loose with a turkey baster and siphon up loose particles. Turn lights off (at least white and run blue at 10-15% IF you have light dependant corals) for 5 days and at night dose 1ml of 3% hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons for all 5 nights. If you dont have light dependent coral- turn all lights off. During the day dose 1ml of liquid bacteria (such as micro bacter 7 or XLM) per 10 gallons. Clean filters daily and DO NOT FEED CORAL FOODS OR ADD NOPOX

i would do everything vetteguy says- its worked for me after battling a while good luck

 

[BuddyBonButt]

I am confused now . Does everyone agree that this is Prorocentrum? After looking at the ID guides further , I believe it is Prorocentrum. I can try to get better pics/video at a higher magnification if that helps.
The link you provided talks about UV as a solution for Prorocentrum. Maybe I am missing something (probably). Any further clarification is greatly appreciated, thank you!

Well prorocentrum and amphidinium have similar solutiom methods

Get nitrate and phos up
Dose:
Microbacter⁷
Pods
Phyto
Nëophos
Nëonitro
Feed more
Less water changes
Daily cleaning

Personally I had either one of those two. It was so so bad and I did this and made it out.

Before

TikTok - Make Your Day

After:

TikTok - Make Your Day

 

[doubleshot00]

https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/a-dinoflagellate-treatment-guide.841/

Start reading.

 

[_Jake_Simek_]

@_Jake_Simek_ posted this and it was incredibly helpful for me. I am a total noob but maybe they are Prorocentrum

https://www.reef2reef.com/attachments/dinoflagellateid12_12_2019-pdf.2925012/

I thank @taricha for bringing that wonderful document into this world

 

[_Jake_Simek_]

I agree with prorocentrum

 

[_Jake_Simek_]

Well prorocentrum and amphidinium have similar solutiom methods

Get nitrate and phos up
Dose:
Microbacter⁷
Pods
Phyto
Nëophos
Nëonitro
Feed more
Less water changes
Daily cleaning

Personally I had either one of those two. It was so so bad and I did this and made it out.

Before

TikTok - Make Your Day

After:

TikTok - Make Your Day

Spot on, pretty much exactly what I did. I also did a blackout to get them into the water colum (at least that was my thinking) while running a UV and that was the once and for all final kicker for me.

 

[bvanfish]

Spot on, pretty much exactly what I did. I also did a blackout to get them into the water colum (at least that was my thinking) while running a UV and that was the once and for all final kicker for me.

I’m currently doing this right now for amphidinium. I’m using different nitrate and phosphate but it’s working

 

[BuddyBonButt]

Spot on, pretty much exactly what I did. I also did a blackout to get them into the water colum (at least that was my thinking) while running a UV and that was the once and for all final kicker for me.

That's the only thing I didn't do. I couldn't afford a uv. Took 3 months to get out. Then I got GHA now I dose pods I culture every other day with phyto and have a diatom bloom. I think I'm in a weird cycle. But I'm hoping the diatoms are the last of it.

 

[_Jake_Simek_]

That's the only thing I didn't do. I couldn't afford a uv. Took 3 months to get out. Then I got GHA now I dose pods I culture every other day with phyto and have a diatom bloom. I think I'm in a weird cycle. But I'm hoping the diatoms are the last of it.

Oh man, I went through a similar thing with cyano, Dino, and gha. This hobby is ruff sometimes. Im Finally getting back to normal