Dinoflagellates

Anyone have any thoughts on a correlation to the use of dry rock to the increasing outbreaks of Dino in our tanks? The thought is that there is Dino present in most systems. The bacterial and organism diversity provided by live rock helps keep the Dino’s in check in a stable tank.

Asking because I’m think of adding 30lbs it so of TBS LR to my Marco as I cycle the tank instead of bottled bacteria....or maybe use both.
 
I have tired a lot of things including waste away but UV is the only thing I have found consistently works in my tanks for these. They seem to even come back with detectable nutrients for me. But even low UV seems to do well. Rocks were from lfs in an old car so not new or dry and even year or two later dinos come back if I take UV off for long.
 
It would be a Great jump start I believe he sends bottle of bacteria with his live rock. His rock is great from what I been reading.
 
Thanks for the responses. Lack of bio diversity from using all dry rock along with running ULN systems were a couple of explanations I’ve read in trying to explain the rise in Dino’s in our reef systems. I do like the idea of using actual LR is the sump. The added bio diversity can’t hurt as far as I’m concerned even if it doesn’t help with Dino’s. I do plan on letting the LR and Marco cycle three or so months before adding significant livestock
 
Thien, listen to @dwest.

Multiple changes are usually needed to completely win the battle with dinos...including biodiversity (Dr Tim's Wateaway did help mine), maintaining elevated phosphate/nitrate, adding pods, dosing silicates and UV. Different species of dinos take different combinations of these.

Almost all the recommendations made so far can help with certain strains. I believe all of the posters when they say they helped their's. However you have identified your species as ostreopsis and I promise you if you don't get and use UV you are making a big mistake. UV can literally wipe out ostreopsis over night! You may have another species too (I did ) and that species might not be sensitive to UV but I would cross that bridge when you get to it.
 
Thien, listen to @dwest.

Multiple changes are usually needed to completely win the battle with dinos...including biodiversity (Dr Tim's Wateaway did help mine), maintaining elevated phosphate/nitrate, adding pods, dosing silicates and UV. Different species of dinos take different combinations of these.

Almost all the recommendations made so far can help with certain strains. I believe all of the posters when they say they helped their's. However you have identified your species as ostreopsis and I promise you if you don't get and use UV you are making a big mistake. UV can literally wipe out ostreopsis over night! You may have another species too (I did ) and that species might not be sensitive to UV but I would cross that bridge when you get to it.

yes all of the advices have been very helpful. I just ordered UV from BRS. will use it after completion of using Dr. Tim’s Waste Away. Not even 12 hrs yet since the start of blackout and 10 ml of Microbactor7, 90% dino had cleared from sand bed and from rocks. Will continue the blacky next few days, dose Microbactor7 then Dr. Tim’s and UV will be use from then forward.
 
Thanks for the responses. Lack of bio diversity from using all dry rock along with running ULN systems were a couple of explanations I’ve read in trying to explain the rise in Dino’s in our reef systems. I do like the idea of using actual LR is the sump. The added bio diversity can’t hurt as far as I’m concerned even if it doesn’t help with Dino’s. I do plan on letting the LR and Marco cycle three or so months before adding significant livestock
I jumped a head of myself when i started this cycle. i used dried rocks in dp, 20 lbs of LR in sump, bunch of bio media balls, dosing zeostart, zeofood, zeobak and running zeovit reactor. these stripped my nitrate to nothing and left very high po4. numbers are now in checked. currently no3 10 ppm, po4 .10. will try to lower them slowly over time.
 
I jumped a head of myself when i started this cycle. i used dried rocks in dp, 20 lbs of LR in sump, bunch of bio media balls, dosing zeostart, zeofood, zeobak and running zeovit reactor. these stripped my nitrate to nothing and left very high po4. numbers are now in checked. currently no3 10 ppm, po4 .10. will try to lower them slowly over time.

I have the luxury if you want to call it that of not having the space for the tank available until late November. The tank (6' peninsula) is going in my office lobby and the build out just started. I did zeovit in my last tank and really liked the results. However, this tank will be more old school. Calcium reactor, auto water changes, fug, and strict adherence to water stability. I will start the tank in a horse trough in my basement. I will complete the aquascape with Marco and throw the rock in the trough with the LR in hopes by the end of November the Marco will be well on it's way to becoming mature. We don't see many horse trough sumps in the hobby anymore but I'm from the day when they were quite common (I won't be using the trough as a sump btw...just the starting tank for a few months).
 

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