DINO's SUCK

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I run uv 24/7

How is your UV plumbed, what wattage/unit are you using and how much flow through the UV unit? These are important.

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I can't say for certain from those pictures, could you post a video to see how they move? I'll tag our resident dino idea expert. @taricha

It looks like you have at least one type of diatom already. They should multiply rapidly with silicate dosing.
 
How is your UV plumbed, what wattage/unit are you using and how much flow through the UV unit? These are important.


I can't say for certain from those pictures, could you post a video to see how they move? I'll tag our resident dino idea expert. @taricha

It looks like you have at least one type of diatom already. They should multiply rapidly with silicate dosing.
UV 314 gph
Turbo twist 12x UV

Plumbed heading back to display from sump. Feed from one of two cor20s that feed display. Flow rate could be adjusted either way

Silicate dosing?

I'll have to try and get a video once I'm home later
 
Mainly because it is low power (wattage). Here is a good read for you.
 
For UV to be most effective you need about 1 watt/3 gallons(this is an imprecise estimate but it works) and it needs to be plumbed from the display back to the display. Plumbing from the sump/manifold seems to not be very effectibe.
 
For UV to be most effective you need about 1 watt/3 gallons(this is an imprecise estimate but it works) and it needs to be plumbed from the display back to the display. Plumbing from the sump/manifold seems to not be very effectibe.
Display back to sump isn't a option, nor is it now.

you'd plumb a 1 1/2" drain then reduce to 1" for UV then to sump, i don't think so. Im better off adding a second then maybe? Or get a residential one from one of my suppliers and plumb it in.

And with that calculation I'd need three UVs lol :(
 
For a 220 gallon you need a 50 watt uv minimum. Minimum.
I've reached out to my suppliers to get some pricing on a much larger UV. Get away from aquarium sales of UVs that are sub par. Maybe even add one on each cor20 heading back to system and go overkill on it.

Thanks, article was very informative
 
Display back to sump isn't a option, nor is it now.

you'd plumb a 1 1/2" drain then reduce to 1" for UV then to sump, i don't think so. Im better off adding a second then maybe? Or get a residential one from one of my suppliers and plumb it in.

And with that calculation I'd need three UVs lol :(

I dropped one of these in my 60 gallon (not including sump) and it helped tremendously. You could put three in your tank and that would give you 72 watts. Not as good as a more expensive inline alternative, but convenient. These should be around $73 each, so watch and compare prices.


This is what I now have plumbed on my EXT 100:

 
Display back to sump isn't a option, nor is it now.

you'd plumb a 1 1/2" drain then reduce to 1" for UV then to sump, i don't think so. Im better off adding a second then maybe? Or get a residential one from one of my suppliers and plumb it in.

And with that calculation I'd need three UVs lol :(


Sorry for the misunderstanding. Most people run a small dedicated pump from the DT to the UV and back to the DT. Never run it off your return line for dinos. For a 220 a Sicce 1.5 pumping 351gph would suffice.
 
Display back to sump isn't a option, nor is it now.

you'd plumb a 1 1/2" drain then reduce to 1" for UV then to sump, i don't think so. Im better off adding a second then maybe? Or get a residential one from one of my suppliers and plumb it in.

And with that calculation I'd need three UVs lol :(

If you have confirmed your dino species as something other than LC Amphidinium, then your idea of temporarily hanging a second 57 watt UV off the display is a fine idea. It is temporary. I built a pvc "U" shaped contraption that not only serves as the plumbing but the hanger as well. It hangs behind the display when I need to chase the buggers off. Then it just goes back to the basement.
 
Hang tough. IMHO, dinos are the toughest fight in this hobby. I have 300 gallon mixed reef and about 3-4 years ago waged a major war with dinos. I tried, blackouts, hydrogen peroxide dosing, vacuuming them out, etc... Nothing was a magic bullet. The lights came on and they'd grow. Water changes seemed to make them worse. I did add a UV light, which might have helped (and I like for Ich management),

But believe the way I cured my dinos was to get my nutrient levels UP, so that other algae's, like green turf algae, could grow and outcompete them. The dinos seemed to slowly be replaced by green algae. Then I tossed a half dozen turbo snails in, and they munched it all up!

I haven't had a dino outbreak in years. I do keep my phosphate/nitrate levels a little higher. I think dinos happen in tanks that don't have enough nutrients.

good luck, hang tough, and know you will beat them -- but it might take some time.
 
How is your UV plumbed, what wattage/unit are you using and how much flow through the UV unit? These are important.


I can't say for certain from those pictures, could you post a video to see how they move? I'll tag our resident dino idea expert. @taricha

It looks like you have at least one type of diatom already. They should multiply rapidly with silicate dosing.
@saltyhog @taricha

Here are some photos. Today my Nitrates are at 4ppm and Phosphates are 70ppb.


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Looks like amphidinium to me but we'll see what @taricha thinks. If it is, it's not really susceptible to UV. Is yours mainly on the sand bed or on the rocks/coral as well?
 
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This is how I rigged by 55w Jebao on my 120g for my Osteprosis outbreak. Week and half later, they're gone. I also dosed nutrients. Will be taking it down this weekend.

So if yours turns out to be the kind that goes in the water column at night, should be very effective.
 
For amphidinium my LFS guy told me.recently that what he does is take some bacteria and add it to a cup with some tank water. And then just take your turkey baster or w.e you use to feed your corals and just suck up water from that cup and kind of "inject it" into the sand. I know it sounds crazy but that seems to be the only thing to be clearing up my sand a bit. I had a case of Ostreopsis too but i beat that easy with a UV. I suggest blowing up the sand a bit prior to doing that bacteria trick. I used zeobak just incase you wanted to know. The places where i have done that has been cleared of dinos for a few days now im surprised nobody has tried that..
When you were basting it in duno , is it with force that the Dino’s fly off ?
 

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