Dino's?

[Jeeperz]

Is this Dino's?

 

[Gareth elliott]

It does look like it but i would read through.

Dinoflagellates – Are You Tired Of Battling Altogether?

I don't know what percentage of folks had luck battling dinos with any of the methods in the old Dino thread but it's obviously a very low percentage, so I'd like refresh folks on the natural alternatives and lay out three areas of info: some of the factors that contribute to a dino outbreak...

www.reef2reef.com

They have some ways to determine if it is and how to id genus if dinos, with their applicable treatment plans.

 

[Jeeperz]

I started reading that but what's funny is my GHA is growing fast, I can't get a good nitrate reading due to it, po4 was .1 my nitrates used to be always around 10-20

 

[Jeeperz]

Nitrate tests 0 due to GHA everywhere. Po4 .1 I have been dosing 3% h2o2 at 2ml 2x's a day in my 20, which is probably 16 gallons after rock, etc... I've been doing that for about 2 weeks in an attempt to slow the GHA with no luck, now these show up.

 

[pecan2phat]

Dinos are the worse, hard to eradicate without killing the corals and it eventually will kill all the CUC especially snails.

 

[Jeeperz]

Not what I want to hear, lol. If my corals and snails die I might as well pack it in and find a different hobby.

 

[pecan2phat]

I have 3 tanks of varying sizes, all 3 had gotten Dinos after using Vibrant. Each tank was different in terms of timeframe but eventually all 3 had it after algae eradication.
Smallest tank, I was able to take all the corals and fish out, bleach the rocks and blackout the tank for 4 days by wrapping it, also added bacteria 2x when wrapped. Started it back up after a week of just circulation and no lights but unwrapped and all seems fine. Extreme measures but easy with a small tank. Larger tank, I am basting daily, stirring sand every other day, lower light intensity, running the skimmer wet, adding bacteria 2x a week and placed a 25w UV directly into the display but am getting nowhere. Can't blackout this tank so I'm just chugging along till the next major change, good or bad!

 

[Jeeperz]

Will the AA aquarium green killing machine 9 watt UV work? My only other option may be the IM universal 10 watt unit. It's a red sea Max nano aio so very little room and they would have to be in the display. These are both the self contained UV units that includes pump etc in one unit.

 

[Jeeperz]

I read for hours last night and it seems raising nutrients and using UV is my best option. Although my nutrients must be high already due to a huge GHA infestation.

 

[pecan2phat]

The IM Universal looks like a better product IMO. Could hang off the false wall and disappear in the background.

 

[Idoc]

I just hooked up a 9w green killing machine literally 10 min ago in a coral/invert quarantine tank that was hit with ostreopsis dinos. Hopefully I'll have good news in about a week, lol. Ostreopsis responds well to UV sterilizes. Honestly, you really need to know what type of dino you are dealing with in order to come up with a plan of attack.

Previously, I had small cell amphidinium dinos in my DT that responded to elevated nutrients, adding biodiversity, and eventually cleared with the Elegant Corals dino/cyano treatment regimen... but then ostreopsis took hold in my DT! Then I installed a 57w Aqua UV sterilizer and the tank looks great now.

Honestly by the pictures, I can't tell if that is dinos or not. You need to take pics with the white lights on, not blues. Try to post some white light pics.

 

[Jeeperz]

My lights are off right now and I see no signs of the Dino's. Seems they are only out with lights on? Whatever it is, it doesn't bother my trumpet coral or Cali tort sps. I will respond back with a white light pic after my lights have been on a bit.

I can get the 9 watt green killing machine today if I should jump on it now vs later. I don't know if I can fit the 24 watt one in my tank. I read somewhere that UV under 15 or so watts is not enough to kill much of anything but may clear green water.

 

[Jeeperz]

If I have to break down my tank. Is there any way to transfer coral without transferring the Dino's? Any dips that work against these things?

 

[Jeeperz]

My only issue with the IM one is that UV degrades plastic like no other. My pond filter housing was pretty much junk after 2 years of UV. With the AA unit the plastic UV housing is replaced with the bulb 1-2 times a year. I just don't know of the quality of the bulbs or the flow rate of either.

 

[Gareth elliott]

if they enter the water column at lights out sounds like a uv will be useful. The 13w one i used did help when i had a species that did this.

Was not useful in the slightest for ones that did not. That i cleared away with nutrient increase, dosing silica, and adding biodiversity.

 

[Jeeperz]

On the biodiversity thought, what did you use? I have no place for macros, as it's a nano. I do add live phyto from either algae barn or my culture. I add pods every so often. I have stability and biospira on hand all the time just in case.

 

[MTBake]

I can't tell if that's dinos or not. Any chance for a white light pic? Or an orange filter perhaps?

That looks more like coral slime than dinos to me. And possibly a couple vermatid snail webs. Really hard to tell though with how blue the pics are.

The best way to confirm dinos is a microscope.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Dino generally brown and stringy/slimy. Blow away with turkey baster to overflow and see how long it takes to return. I think this is a product of diatoms. If any more pics, lower blue so it is more visible

 

[Jeeperz]

I don't think it's vermatids but kinda does remind me of them, had them in the past. A screwdriver and bumblebee snail eliminated them, have not seen a tube for 9+ months. I'll get pics soon when lights come on

 

[Idoc]

My lights are off right now and I see no signs of the Dino's. Seems they are only out with lights on? Whatever it is, it doesn't bother my trumpet coral or Cali tort sps. I will respond back with a white light pic after my lights have been on a bit.

I can get the 9 watt green killing machine today if I should jump on it now vs later. I don't know if I can fit the 24 watt one in my tank. I read somewhere that UV under 15 or so watts is not enough to kill much of anything but may clear green water.

My understanding is that it's not so much the wattage of the UV versus the water contact time with the UV light that kills algae/parasites, etc... The 9w green killing machine is only putting around <50gph over the UV light with the small included pump. I'll know in a few days if it is enough to kill dinos in my 20g long coral quarantine tank!

After looking at your pictures more closely on my computer (bigger screen than my phone), those do look like dino strands. But, it doesn't look like a terrible infestation yet.