I think aquaculture is the way forward for our hobby - I only hope that the aquaculture operations can be owned and operated by the people who currently feed their families by harvesting from natural reefs.
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I think aquaculture is the way forward for our hobby - I only hope that the aquaculture operations can be owned and operated by the people who currently feed their families by harvesting from natural reefs.
Labridaedicted
Wrassetastic
Simply put, if the filtration is adequate, and there is no excessive agression displayed, then I don't believe there is a problem. Reefs are crowded places. Particularly reef crests.
I agree that ideally reefs are crowded places (though this is rarely the case nowadays), but we shall not forget that a reef is still a vast ecosystem, which is sustained by a huge body of water - an ocean! Besides other coastal habitats a reef is in exchange with...Simply put, if the filtration is adequate, and there is no excessive agression displayed, then I don't believe there is a problem. Reefs are crowded places. Particularly reef crests.
laga77
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Just because there are a lot of fish right there means it is overcrowded. There are plenty of hiding places on that reef where a fish can go hide when it feels threaten. At the same time there is a whole ocean to run to when under attack. A big problem with a lot of tanks is the lack of hiding spots for the fish. I have seen many tanks with a few piles of live rock to place some coral on, but no places for the fish to hide or sleep. Most reef fish like to wedge themselves into a little nook in the rocks to sleep. The absence of these just adds long term stress on the fish which can lead to dieases.Simply put, if the filtration is adequate, and there is no excessive agression displayed, then I don't believe there is a problem. Reefs are crowded places. Particularly reef crests.
They say they use natural sea water for water changes - so in some ways their system is connected with the natural habitat. I believe they are doing as good a job as they can - short of not having an aquarium at all. You said in an earlier post you have a nano tank - can you post some photos, or at least specs on livestock, filtration, equipment, etc?
Kmore1219
Active Member
Unable to tell which tank it is in the video but for anyone concerned with overcrowding ill be glad to say that these tanks are HUGE, I've gone multiple times when living in New England and as someone who has been there in person I don't think I've ever seen happier fish. This tank looks to probably be the 5100 gallon tank, so theres a lot more to it than we can see in the video.
Desmond
Well-Known Member
Environmental protection hence using a artifical reef. I think you should go back and debate with your friends as your points are uneducated views. At least build some knowledge about an issue before you blabber pointlessly.
Desmond
Well-Known Member
Ok so whats in your nano tank ? Not trying to offend you but be aware you will envoke some reaction with your heading. If it read whats your thoughts as to stocking the tone would be easier. I just felt you popped at an Aquairum that does allot to help and save the sea. I am ftom europe also and actually seen this tank up close and tge fish were extremely healthy. Fed on a huge diversity of foods as you have many types from tangs to puffers and moorish idol which all have different requirements. moorish idol would be a more challenging fish in some cases but there moorish idol were stunning.
Desmond
Well-Known Member
Thats a very nice looking tank you have there. I dont mean to be rude but i have a strong view as i have seen the tanks and effort put in here. Being honest if we looked at the picture of overcrowding a tank how can you say a what size tank a fish is good in compared to the ocean itself.A pic as requested. Mainly soft corals, some hermit crabs, prawn goby with snapping shrimp in 60 Liter (= 16 gallons)
A pic as requested. Mainly soft corals, some hermit crabs, prawn goby with snapping shrimp in 60 Liter (= 16 gallons)
Yes that's a nice tank. What kind is it? What kind of light is that? What type of filtration are you using?
ShaneTweedz
Community Member
Here is your answer, most non hobbyists would rather see fish than corals. So if having a living coral reef were to inhibit what fish they could keep they would rather do away with the corals. Most of the general public could not care less whether the corals are real or fake.
This thread seems to have gotten out of hand on all sides. @Leah I'm wondering if you wouldn't like to work with some of the other individuals on the forum to start a new discussion about overcrowding in the reef community at large? It might be an easier topic to broach first before going on to public aquariums. It's not to say public aquariums are immune to such criticism, however it's a harder jumping off point for everyone to agree with, however we all know of a hobbyist who overcrowds and their fish suffer. At this point it just seems like a flame war and more like another popular reef forum, not like reef2reef.
Bryce Peterson
Active Member
It's funny to see so many posts start with: I'm bored; and then, when someone posts something even mildly provocative, it starts a feeding frenzy of personal attacks.
