Do klein's butterflyfish ship well?

[Makubex]

I ordered one from bluezooaquatics but im worried it might not make it past 1-3 weeks... if not doa, should i cancel that guy? Ive read theyre mega hardy though

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Small ones ship fine. There is a tendency for shippers to pack larger ones in too small of a bag.

Jay

 

[Makubex]

Okay mine is around 3" are they hardy like a clownfish? I havent seen anything hardier than them lol

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Okay mine is around 3" are they hardy like a clownfish? I havent seen anything hardier than them lol

They are prone to developing Neobenedenia flukes that they pick up going through the supply chain. I guess I can’t really compare their hardiness to clownfish - each species has its own different issues. They are one of the hardiest butterflyfish though. They will eat anemones and coral,
Jay

 

[Makubex]

They are prone to developing Neobenedenia flukes that they pick up going through the supply chain. I guess I can’t really compare their hardiness to clownfish - each species has its own different issues. They are one of the hardiest butterflyfish though. They will eat anemones and coral,
Jay

Would quarantine get rid of those flukes? Im confused, i dont want my other fishes to get it how can i prevent that from happening? Will that kill them? Thanks

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Would quarantine get rid of those flukes? Im confused, i dont want my other fishes to get it how can i prevent that from happening? Will that kill them? Thanks

Yes - our quarantine protocol is listed at the top of the fish disease forum. Or - you could hold the fish at half salinity for 35 days.
Not every one of these will have flukes, especially if they were treated before you got it.
Jay

 

[Makubex]

Yes - our quarantine protocol is listed at the top of the fish disease forum. Or - you could hold the fish at half salinity for 35 days.
Not every one of these will have flukes, especially if they were treated before you got it.
Jay

Can you copy paste the link for the quarantine protocol?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Current Quarantine Protocol

2024 Quarantine Procedures Jay Hemdal David Scarborough Protozoans (Cryptocaryon/ich, Amyloodinium/velvet) and Metazoan trematodes/flukes are by far the most common parasites found on newly acquired fish. A carefully managed, proactive quarantine process can effectively eliminate these...

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[Makubex]

Yes - our quarantine protocol is listed at the top of the fish disease forum. Or - you could hold the fish at half salinity for 35 days.
Not every one of these will have flukes, especially if they were treated before you got it.
Jay

So instead of qt I can just hold the fish at half salinity for 35 days? And after that start the prazipro treatment? Im a little confused

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

So instead of qt I can just hold the fish at half salinity for 35 days? And after that start the prazipro treatment? Im a little confused

No, the half salinity is instead of Prazipro for flukes. You’d still have to decide if you want to run a copper treatment for protozoans first.
Jay

 

[Makubex]

No, the half salinity is instead of Prazipro for flukes. You’d still have to decide if you want to run a copper treatment for protozoans first.
Jay

Gotcha, I cant remove 100% of the sand though, im leaving like 3% is that okay?, also the new 1" six line wrasse needs a cup of sand to sleep in it at night-can I do so? Since its still sand

 

[Makubex]

Here is what I meant by 3%, had 45 pounds now maybe an ounce?

 

[Tamberav]

The sand is fine. Also sixlines do not sleep in the sand, they make a mucus cocoon and sleep in the rocks.

 

[Makubex]

The sand is fine. Also sixlines do not sleep in the sand, they make a mucus cocoon and sleep in the rocks.

So how will he sleep then? Im adding a $100 36" plastic boat made for fw tanks for their hiding/etc-is that okay? Is just a freshwater ornament since i cant have live rock

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

So how will he sleep then? Im adding a $100 36" plastic boat made for fw tanks for their hiding/etc-is that okay? Is just a freshwater ornament since i cant have live rock

Rinse it well in FW before use (soak it overnight). You don’t need elaborate ornaments though - I just use short sections of PVC pipe of various diameters all linked together with nylon line to hold it together.
Jay

 

[Makubex]

Rinse it well in FW before use (soak it overnight). You don’t need elaborate ornaments though - I just use short sections of PVC pipe of various diameters all linked together with nylon line to hold it together.
Jay

My bad the boat was in a fw tank 24/7, how will the wrasse sleep though? Since i cant have live rocks

 

[Tamberav]

My bad the boat was in a fw tank 24/7, how will the wrasse sleep though? Since i cant have live rocks

he will find a spot inside the ornaments to sleep.

 

[Makubex]

he will find a spot inside the ornaments to sleep.

Okay can I use a water pump to circulate water or not? It doesnt say in the protocol, btw its a 55 to house a 3.25" niger trigger/1" 6 line, 3" coral beauty and a 2.8" kleins butterfly fish, they should be alright though correct? Im adding that huge ship to provide protection from the niger if it gets aggressive as well as hiding spots

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Okay can I use a water pump to circulate water or not? It doesnt say in the protocol, btw its a 55 to house a 3.25" niger trigger/1" 6 line, 3" coral beauty and a 2.8" kleins butterfly fish, they should be alright though correct? Im adding that huge ship to provide protection from the niger if it gets aggressive as well as hiding spots

Water circulation is important to a degree, but aeration is vital - you need bubbles that break the surface tension of the water. I use extra aeration from an air pump and air stone, but a protein skimmer will also work (but don't collect the skimmate if you are using certain meds like prazi).

Jay

 

[Makubex]

Water circulation is important to a degree, but aeration is vital - you need bubbles that break the surface tension of the water. I use extra aeration from an air pump and air stone, but a protein skimmer will also work (but don't collect the skimmate if you are using certain meds like prazi).

Jay

Will my 2 hob filters'(60 gallons each) provide enough water movement at the top? Or do i 'need' to buy the air pump/air stone?