Don't be too harsh on me!

Welcome!
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If it hasn't been mentioned already, here's a really great book. It's contemporary, and a great reference.
 
This is a big family here :)
 
Welcome!
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If it hasn't been mentioned already, here's a really great book. It's contemporary, and a great reference.
Thank you for posting that!
It is getting hard to find books in these days
 
Another good idea is to find someone local that has experience and let them mentor you.
 
Another good idea is to find someone local that has experience and let them mentor you.

Yes! I did find a local coral shop that has it all, I'm just not quite sure what to ask of them! I don't think they have information days, of sorts.. Would I ask to just shadow? Or what?
 
Welcome!!
You'll find everyone here is more than happy to help!
There is no such thing as a dumb question here, I can guarantee everyone here has asked the same questions at one point in time.
And I think it's great that you are taking the time to really research and do things the right way! Your wallet and your fish will be very grateful.
Just remember to take your time!
 
Are all of these tubes feather dusters?
 

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Didn't read all the responses but I can say the people here for the most part are not douchy... I really don't see people attack others on here and a lot are quick to help and offer advice.
Just be careful NOT to take everyone advice literal and so quickly. We all have our own experiences to tell people but it doesn't mean its the correct way or best way to go about something.
Good Luck and welcome!!
 
Hi Maggie! I'm at the same stage you are, pretty much. Starting from scratch is daunting and there's no quick way to absorb the ocean of information needed to do things right. One critical element of this venture that I'm sure you've seen mentioned time and time again is PATIENCE. I've always considered myself a pretty patient person, but I'm getting lots of new practice now! The patience needed to carefully research and learn one step at a time will translate into the patience needed to wait for waters to properly cycle and growing things to grow, clean up crews to clean, and monies saved for new tools, gadgets or fishes.

Sorry I'm too new to offer any real advice...but I wanted you to know you're not alone in your newbiness. ;)
 
Hi Maggie! I'm at the same stage you are, pretty much. Starting from scratch is daunting and there's no quick way to absorb the ocean of information needed to do things right. One critical element of this venture that I'm sure you've seen mentioned time and time again is PATIENCE. I've always considered myself a pretty patient person, but I'm getting lots of new practice now! The patience needed to carefully research and learn one step at a time will translate into the patience needed to wait for waters to properly cycle and growing things to grow, clean up crews to clean, and monies saved for new tools, gadgets or fishes.

Sorry I'm too new to offer any real advice...but I wanted you to know you're not alone in your newbiness. ;)

Thank you so much!! I'm glad to know I'm not alone, but that's also a good thing!! I hope your beginning runs smoothly, and comes with ease! :)
 
really not much to it over fresh water.

get a hydrometer. later a refractometer. these measure salinity (saltiness) of your water. you dont want your water to be the red sea right?

get a heater and start at 78 f. anything below 72-74 and anything above 86 you will run in to issues.

remember that hydrometer? well it's measurement will be off of the temp of the water and is different than what the factory calibrated it at. (usually 60f).
target 1.022-1.023 on your hydrometer. if you went refractometer you will have to make sure it is calibrated and can disregard.

so we have water at 78 f and hydrometer reads 1.022-1.023 (if instant ocean) but really you are at 1.025. this gives us a little breathing room for evaporation.

as your tank does it's thing it will slowly evaporate h2o. but the salt will stay in there. so more salt per h2o due to evap gives us a little wiggle room. we dont want salinity (saltiness) to go above 1.027. or probably 1.025-1.026 on the hydrometer. all we do is add pure water (no salt) and we are back to normal again.

k so we have water and temp. woot! lets look at filtration. a good baseline for filtration is 1-2lbs of liverock per gallon. hang on back filters arent going to cut it with our lil piece of the ocean. we need to use rock. in this rock, it will house all the fun stuff to eat all the waste fish give off. you dont want them swimming and breathing their own pee and poo do you?

so if i have a 20 gallon tank, i would need roughly 20-40 lbs of nice porous live rock. porous being that it has caves and holes and lots of dimples. you dont want to use marble or granite. just nice textured, and holey rock.

sand can be of whatever choosing. avoid crushed coral. it traps waste from fish that the rock can never get at to break it down. sand is preferred. 1-2 inches. later when you get the hang of things... you can utilize other strategies. but for now no more than 2 inches.

now we need some sort of flow. flow is what transports nutrients around so that other life can grab it. it also allows gas exchange so that fish can breath. you dont want a puddle of bleh that kills your fish so we aim this at the surface of the tank so that gas exchange can occur. you want nice little ripples on the top of the tank's water. by doing this you introduce oxygen so fish can breath while getting rid of co2. (in laymens terms)

now to cycle.
there are many many manyyyyy ways to cycle and i will not go in to it on this post. however, you will have the beginnings of a basic saltwater tank.

lighting
another subject. what do you want to keep? stick with zoas for your first coral. or even a duncan. these are pretty hearty corals and arent a nuisance weed like xenia or kenya trees or green star polyps.

get a basic marine test kit!
you need to know your ammonia, nitrite during the cycle.
nitrate always
phosphate kit always

want corals?
magnesium, alkalinity, calcium kits will do you well.

my personal advice:
start small. this hobby gets expensive quick! i bought my wife a 40 breeder, heater, hang on back filter, sand, crappy led light, cfl clip on, and a powerhead for around $300. (she stole 40 lbs of lr from my sump) she has a birdsnest, zoas, and a clown picasso in there.

if you took my 265. it was $3000 for the tank and stand and that was me getting it at a deal. my uv filter alone was $780. these "toys" are not necessary. but they make my life easier. if you find the 20-40 gallon tank makes you want more. congratz. you caught the addiction.

most importantly have fun. and realize, you can make this as complicated as you want. i think these first few steps will help you with the next one ;)

hth
 
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really not much to it over fresh water.

get a hydrometer. later a refractometer. these measure salinity (saltiness) of your water. you dont want your water to be the red sea right?

get a heater and start at 78 f. anything below 72-74 and anything above 86 you will run in to issues.

remember that hydrometer? well it's measurement will be off of the temp of the water and is different than what the factory calibrated it at. (usually 60f).
target 1.022-1.023 on your hydrometer. if you went refractometer you will have to make sure it is calibrated and can disregard.

so we have water at 78 f and hydrometer reads 1.022-1.023 (if instant ocean) but really you are at 1.025. this gives us a little breathing room for evaporation.

as your tank does it's thing it will slowly evaporate h2o. but the salt will stay in there. so more salt per h2o due to evap gives us a little wiggle room. we dont want salinity (saltiness) to go above 1.027. or probably 1.025-1.026 on the hydrometer. all we do is add pure water (no salt) and we are back to normal again.

k so we have water and temp. woot! lets look at filtration. a good baseline for filtration is 1-2lbs of liverock per gallon. hang on back filters arent going to cut it with our lil piece of the ocean. we need to use rock. in this rock, it will house all the fun stuff to eat all the waste fish give off. you dont want them swimming and breathing their own pee and poo do you?

so if i have a 20 gallon tank, i would need roughly 20-40 lbs of nice porous live rock. porous being that it has caves and holes and lots of dimples. you dont want to use marble or granite. just nice textured, and holey rock.

sand can be of whatever choosing. avoid crushed coral. it traps waste from fish that the rock can never get at to break it down. sand is preferred. 1-2 inches. later when you get the hang of things... you can utilize other strategies. but for now no more than 2 inches.

now we need some sort of flow. flow is what transports nutrients around so that other life can grab it. it also allows gas exchange so that fish can breath. you dont want a puddle of bleh that kills your fish so we aim this at the surface of the tank so that gas exchange can occur. you want nice little ripples on the top of the tank's water. by doing this you introduce oxygen so fish can breath while getting rid of co2. (in laymens terms)

now to cycle.
there are many many manyyyyy ways to cycle and i will not go in to it on this post. however, you will have the beginnings of a basic saltwater tank.

lighting
another subject. what donyou want to keep? stick with zoas for your first coral. or even a duncan. these are pretty hearty corals and arent a nuisance weed like xenia or kenya trees or green star polyps.

get a basic marine test kit!
you need to know your ammonia, nitrite during the cycle.
nitrate always
phosphate kit always

want corals?
magnesium, alkalinity, calcium kits will do you well.

most importantly have fun. and realize, you can make this as complicated as you want. i think these first few steps will help you with the next one ;)

hth

Oh my GOD! Thank you so much!! I truly appreciate it!! I've been looking all over trying to find valuable information about this extensive hobby, but everyone is telling me to go to all these places, and read all these books, instead of simply telling me some basics! I really appreciate it! Thank you so much! :D:D
 

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