Dual siphon overflow, is this stupid?

[ActuallyFresh]

You think this will work well, or is it just a dumb idea.

 

[KStatefan]

It will work if tuned correctly but why two full siphon drains?

 

[theMeat]

Agreed ^
just use a bigger pipe if needed.

 

[ActuallyFresh]

It will work if tuned correctly but why two full siphon drains?

The wet dry is split in two bays. I figured splitting one siphon may cause issue?

I've thought about two independent overflows as well. Not sure what's best yet.

 

[Cell]

I suppose it would allow for a more slim overflow. I'm not sure a 4th pipe is needed though. Just 2 full siphons and a backup if both full siphons were to get clogged at the same time.

 

[ActuallyFresh]

I suppose it would allow for a more slim overflow. I'm not sure a 4th pipe is needed though. Just 2 full siphons and a backup if both full siphons were to get clogged at the same time.

Like use the herbie trickle as a backup?

A side, but slightly related question.. Has anybody actually had a pipe clog?

Anything that can fit through the weir, I would assume, wouldn't clog the drain.

 

[RobB'z Reef]

Not stupid at all, just really unnecessary.

 

[Cell]

My primary drain seems somewhat clogged. I have been dragging my feet pulling it out though. I assume it's a sponge party in there.

 

[ActuallyFresh]

Not stupid at all, just really unnecessary.

What do you recommend my guy?

 

[RobB'z Reef]

What do you recommend my guy?

Soi have more questions, I seen you mention the split between two bays. Is this already built? What problem are you trying to solve or what is the perceived benefit from your perspective?

 

[ActuallyFresh]

Soi have more questions, I seen you mention the split between two bays. Is this already built? What problem are you trying to solve or what is the perceived benefit from your perspective?

Yeah, the sump is secondhand and is built and ready to go. Got it from a good guy who was no longer into wet/drys and a nice price .

I need to provide it with two inputs and I'm thinking splitting a single siphon would lead to issue.

I'm stuck between one large overflow or two smaller independent ones.

A little about the build.
The tank is an 8' 220g acrylic that is also secondhand. I've resealed with weldon 40, cut, buffed and polished half. Am building stand now.

 

[theMeat]

My primary drain seems somewhat clogged. I have been dragging my feet pulling it out though. I assume it's a sponge party in there.

Maybe sponge, maybe not

 

[Cell]

I've seen that video before. Bristleworms are not welcome in my tanks. I remove any I see.

 

[ActuallyFresh]

Maybe sponge, maybe not

Omg;Yuck

 

[theMeat]

Two pipes, two socks to clean. Would go with one. The thing with socks is you should clean em every 4 days or less. Otherwise what the sock catches starts to break down and re-enter the water column

 

[RobB'z Reef]

Yeah, the sump is secondhand and is built and ready to go. Got it from a good guy who was no longer into wet/drys and a nice price .

I need to provide it with two inputs and I'm thinking splitting a single siphon would lead to issue.

I'm stuck between one large overflow or two smaller independent ones.

A little about the build.
The tank is an 8' 220g acrylic that is also secondhand. I've resealed with weldon 40, cut, buffed and polished half. Am building stand now.

What about just plugging one of the main siphons and not worrying about it? Are the drains from the overflow 1 1/2"? I mean you don't actually need to feed them both right?

 

[ActuallyFresh]

What about just plugging one of the main siphons and not worrying about it? Are the drains from the overflow 1 1/2"? I mean you don't actually need to feed them both right?

Have not obtained the overflow yet, I would like to supply both chambers of the wet/dry. Seems like a waste not to.

 

[RobB'z Reef]

Have not obtained the overflow yet, I would like to supply both chambers of the wet/dry. Seems like a waste not to.

Since you solicited opinions, that's all mine is, just another opinion lol. But it's not really a waste if you don't actually benefit from it. The most reliable systems are often the simplest IMO, the redundancy is already built into the typical bean, you'll never use it unless you jack your turn over to an insane level. In practice what will happen is you'll just end up choking it back because you can't achieve a full siphon without doing so. So what have you really accomplished? I have a 180 dt with 1.5 drain lines and those are way over sized and I have to throttle them back for the 7x turn over I'm doing. Just something to consider. Not saying don't do it, just things to ponder.

 

[Dburr1014]

Have not obtained the overflow yet, I would like to supply both chambers of the wet/dry. Seems like a waste not to.

Post a pic of the chambers.
Are they not side by side? Drill hole, 1 is now a refuge.

 

[ActuallyFresh]

Since you solicited opinions, that's all mine is, just another opinion lol. But it's not really a waste if you don't actually benefit from it. The most reliable systems are often the simplest IMO, the redundancy is already built into the typical bean, you'll never use it unless you jack your turn over to an insane level. In practice what will happen is you'll just end up choking it back because you can't achieve a full siphon without doing so. So what have you really accomplished? I have a 180 dt with 1.5 drain lines and those are way over sized and I have to throttle them back for the 7x turn over I'm doing. Just something to consider. Not saying don't do it, just things to ponder.

I don't mean to come off as snobbish or uninterested in your opinion. I appreciate them in fact.

Having a 55g wet/dry and utilizing only half of it, doesn't make sense. I receive added water filtration by utilizing the entire sump. There is a large benefit to using both inputs. I see no reason to cut those benefits off.

I'm not worried about flow to the sump, that can be resolved in several ways. My issue concerns the double input to the sump and whether to accomplish that with two siphons from a single overflow or two from independent overflows or even a split from one large siphon.

I feel the latter will cause issue.