Elegance 16 or 45 days QT

[QuinnLee512]

I quarantine nems for 16 days and corals for 45 days at 81 degrees. Just bought my first elegance. I assume an elegance would fall under the 45 days QT? Is that correct?

 

[sfin52]

I quarantine nems for 16 days and corals for 45 days at 81 degrees. Just bought my first elegance. I assume an elegance would fall under the 45 days QT? Is that correct?

For ich needs 72 days.

 

[QuinnLee512]

For ich needs 72 days.

I have a coral/invert only QT with no fish. According to humblefish, only need 45 days at 81 degrees.

 

[piranhaman00]

For ich needs 72 days.

No longer correct, at 81F you will be fine at 30 days, 45 to be safe. 72 days was a lab error

 

[sfin52]

I have a coral/invert only QT with no fish. According to humblefish, only need 45 days at 81 degrees.

Than I would follow humblefish advice.

 

[sfin52]

No longer correct, at 81F you will be fine at 30 days, 45 to be safe. 72 days was a lab error

Thats handy info. Thanks

 

[QuinnLee512]

Humblefish also mentions that nems only need 16 days. So I was curious if an elegance would follow the coral or nem timeline. I assume coral since it has coral in it's name?

 

[MnFish1]

No longer correct, at 81F you will be fine at 30 days, 45 to be safe. 72 days was a lab error

this is not true. The study - was in fish at a certain temperature. There was one group - that still got CI - Even at 72 days. Most - were dead before that. But it was not 'lab error' - IMHO - there are lots of studies that suggest different temperatures play a role - as well as various anaerobic conditions

 

[sfin52]

Humblefish also mentions that nems only need 16 days. So I was curious if an elegance would follow the coral or nem timeline. I assume coral since it has coral in it's name?

They are an lps so according to humblefish 45 days

 

[MnFish1]

BTW - if a coral is at 81 degrees - all good - 45 days - if its at 77 degrees - you may have significant problems raising it to 81. IMHO - the 45 days x 81 was for fish not coral - unless you're planning to keep the tank at 81

 

[MnFish1]

this is not true. The study - was in fish at a certain temperature. There was one group - that still got CI - Even at 72 days. Most - were dead before that. But it was not 'lab error' - IMHO - there are lots of studies that suggest different temperatures play a role - as well as various anaerobic conditions

This was my mistake - I meant to say - the longest parasites survived was 72 days - not fish

 

[piranhaman00]

this is not true. The study - was in fish at a certain temperature. There was one group - that still got CI - Even at 72 days. Most - were dead before that. But it was not 'lab error' - IMHO - there are lots of studies that suggest different temperatures play a role - as well as various anaerobic conditions

This was my mistake - I meant to say - the longest parasites survived was 72 days - not fish

I thought I had you ignored…

 

[QuinnLee512]

BTW - if a coral is at 81 degrees - all good - 45 days - if its at 77 degrees - you may have significant problems raising it to 81. IMHO - the 45 days x 81 was for fish not coral - unless you're planning to keep the tank at 81

I'm pretty sure the 45 days is for a fishless quarantine of corals and inverts.

"IMPORTANT UPDATE: Raising aquarium temperature to 27C/80.6F can shorten the coral/invert isolation period to 6 weeks: "

Coral/Invert Quarantine Time Frames

Coral/Invert Quarantine Time Frames IMPORTANT UPDATE: Raising aquarium temperature to 27C/80.6F can shorten the coral/invert isolation period to 6 weeks: New Ich Fallow Period Preface: The purpose of this article is to outline time periods required to properly quarantine (QT) marine corals &...

humble.fish

 

[MnFish1]

I thought I had you ignored…

Your mistake

 

[MnFish1]

I'm pretty sure the 45 days is for a fishless quarantine of corals and inverts.

"IMPORTANT UPDATE: Raising aquarium temperature to 27C/80.6F can shorten the coral/invert isolation period to 6 weeks: "

Coral/Invert Quarantine Time Frames

Coral/Invert Quarantine Time Frames IMPORTANT UPDATE: Raising aquarium temperature to 27C/80.6F can shorten the coral/invert isolation period to 6 weeks: New Ich Fallow Period Preface: The purpose of this article is to outline time periods required to properly quarantine (QT) marine corals &...

humble.fish

I think we're talking around eachother - if you have a tank with corals/inverts - supposedly - right - stability is king. Raising the temp from 77 to 81 - does not make sense to me. Likewise though probably better - lowering the temp from 81 to 77 does not Make sense. Either way - the original studies were not done at high temperatures (ie tropical) - and - I agree with Jay's assessment of the QT. Frankly - its hard to say one way or the other - Since 50% of people here don't QT at all. Hard to Make some kind of study.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I have a coral/invert only QT with no fish. According to humblefish, only need 45 days at 81 degrees.

There is a sticky at the top of this section that discusses this. In it I explain where the 76 day time frame came from and why 45 days can work. As long as the elegance can handle 81 degrees, then 45 days would be fine, as long as it didn’t come from a tank with known active disease, then I might opt to be a bit more conservative.
Jay

 

[QuinnLee512]

There is a sticky at the top of this section that discusses this. In it I explain where the 76 day time frame came from and why 45 days can work. As long as the elegance can handle 81 degrees, then 45 days would be fine, as long as it didn’t come from a tank with known active disease, then I might opt to be a bit more conservative.
Jay

Thank you. I'm actually aware of this. I quarantine all of my corals for 45 days. Then I had noticed that nems only need 16 and was just confirming that the elegance would need the 45 days and not 16.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Thank you. I'm actually aware of this. I quarantine all of my corals for 45 days. Then I had noticed that nems only need 16 and was just confirming that the elegance would need the 45 days and not 16.

Wait! Anemones need 45 days as well, they are full of water from the source tank so commonly act as disease vectors. Remember, ich isn’t the only disease that can be carried from tank to tank.
Jay

 

[QuinnLee512]

Wait! Anemones need 45 days as well, they are full of water from the source tank so commonly act as disease vectors. Remember, ich isn’t the only disease that can be carried from tank to tank.
Jay

If you read humblefish's thread around QT, he says nems only need 16.

 

[QuinnLee512]