Elegance coral dying!!!!!!

[MysticBlue]

I really need help my elegance coral has been looking like this for about a month!!!!! I’ve asked before and they said move him to a shady area and feed him. Well I’ve tried that and I think he got worse!!! So I put him in a very bright area and he opened to this!!!!! His tentacles aren’t even sticking to his food and he can’t eat it!!! All the other coral is doing great. What is going on!!!!!!
Parameters are as follows
Calcium 425
Alkalinity 9.5
Magnesium 1,500
Phosphate.08
Temp 79
Salinity 1.025
PH 8.3
Help please!!!!!

 

[Rovert]

Try moving it away from the hammer. Don't be alarmed by polyp extension changes, mine goes through cycles all the time, sometimes they're long and wavy, other times short and stubby.

 

[MysticBlue]

Try moving it away from the hammer. Don't be alarmed by polyp extension changes, mine goes through cycles all the time, sometimes they're long and wavy, other times short and stubby.

See this isn’t a cycle it’s been terrible really a couple weeks after I bought it. It used to be softball sized and now it’s barely a golf ball sized. It’s been declining for about 3 months but this last month it’s barely opened. I just moved it to the hammer coral today so I don’t think that’s the issues

 

[Lavey29]

Could have a bacteria infection but moving from low light to bright light will take weeks for it to adjust. Have you examined for pests? I keep mine in low light.

 

[Tcook]

Minh had an article on treating these. Not sure with what. @OrionN

 

[vetteguy53081]

Receeded rather than dying and seeing your mag level, mine does NOT like high mag- 1330 is where mine is at.
Elegance corals require a moderate amount of light to support photosynthesis which they require which does not translate to strong light. LEDs, fluorescent, or other reef-caliber lights are sufficient but you want to aim for a PAR of about 80-120. Also important is water flow which should be moderate.
Elegance corals require moderate light to support photosynthesis which they require. You want to aim for a PAR of about 80-120. Water flow should be moderate. You don’t want the flow to be too high or too low but allowing the tentacles flowing gently. Too little flow and elegance corals will not make it. Too much flow and you risk tearing the polyps. Proper flow brings food and nutrients to the polyps which should drift in the water flow.
Elegance coral is photosynthetic, which contains photosynthetic algae called zooxanthellae that live inside its tissue and provides nutrition by converting the energy by light. They require regular feedings. with foods such as krill, Mysis shrimp, brine shrimp, or small pieces of fish, and shrimp.
Elegance corals ARE prone to elegance coral syndrome (ECS). If your coral has this disease, you’ll see swelling around the oral disc and unopened polyps or a white mucus coating.

Moderate water flow and lighting are crucial. Too little flow and they will be miserable and too much like euphyllia coral- you risk tearing the flesh off the skeleton. Moderate flow will provide the nutrients to reach them and being a photosynthetic, moderate to medium light will provide nutrients to zooxanthellae which is within them to provide color and energy.
They must be fed 2-3x a week with foods such as krill, Mysis shrimp, brine shrimp, or small pieces of fish, and shrimp. Powdered foods such as reef roids will not satisfy their needs.
Elegance are prone to elegance coral syndrome (ECS). If your elegance has this disease, you’ll see swelling around the oral disc and unopened polyps or a white mucus coating on the coral surface

Here is mine:

 

[MysticBlue]

Receeded rather than dying and seeing your mag level, mine does NOT like high mag- 1330 is where mine is at.
Elegance corals require a moderate amount of light to support photosynthesis which they require which does not translate to strong light. LEDs, fluorescent, or other reef-caliber lights are sufficient but you want to aim for a PAR of about 80-120. Also important is water flow which should be moderate.
You don’t want the flow to be too hard or too soft but keeping the tentacles flowing gently, like leaves in a light wind. Too little and elegance corals will not thrive. Too much flow and you risk tearing the delicate polyps.
The proper flow brings nutrients to the polyps, ensuring they remain nourished. And you’ll see the typical sweeping movement as they drift in the current.
The elegance coral is photosynthetic, which contain photosynthetic algae called zooxanthellae that live inside its body tissue and provide nutrition by harvesting the energy in light – much like a house plant. They also benefit from regular feedings. with foods such as krill, Mysis shrimp, brine shrimp, or small pieces of fish, and shrimp.
Elegance corals ARE prone to elegance coral syndrome (ECS). If your coral has this disease, you’ll see swelling around the oral disc and unopened polyps or a white mucus coating.

Here is mine:

How do I treat ECS ? Also I don’t dose magnesium I use Red Sea test kit and it stays at 1,500 how do I reduce it? Also I run the virespectra lights and he’s in the sand bed with full light I’m not sure of the par. The flow is really good I try to feed it about once a week but again it’s so week it can’t grab any food I give it.

 

[Mark Novack]

I would try and lower Mg by 100 or raise Ca by 50 but the coral does not look to be dying. I had the same Ca:Mg numbers and boosting the ratio by raising Ca made an immediate positive difference. The 1:3 to 1:3.2 ratio really works. Slightly out of balance Ca and Mg is not a killer but it will slow growth and effect general health.

 

[vetteguy53081]

How do I treat ECS ? Also I don’t dose magnesium I use Red Sea test kit and it stays at 1,500 how do I reduce it? Also I run the virespectra lights and he’s in the sand bed with full light I’m not sure of the par. The flow is really good I try to feed it about once a week but again it’s so week it can’t grab any food I give it.

I lower mag via water changes but if your salt is high in mag, you may have to switch for now

 

[MysticBlue]

I would try and lower Mg by 100 or raise Ca by 50 but the coral does not look to be dying. I had the same Ca:Mg numbers and boosting the ratio by raising Ca made an immediate positive difference. The 1:3 to 1:3.2 ratio really works. Slightly out of balance Ca and Mg is not a killer but it will slow growth and effect general health.

So I should raise my calcium to like 600?

 

[MysticBlue]

I lower mag via water changes but if your salt is high in mag, you may have to switch for now

I use instant ocean reef salt I also have instant ocean aquarium salt that basically has no beneficial value could that work? How do I treat ECS?

 

[Uncle99]

I really need help my elegance coral has been looking like this for about a month!!!!! I’ve asked before and they said move him to a shady area and feed him. Well I’ve tried that and I think he got worse!!! So I put him in a very bright area and he opened to this!!!!! His tentacles aren’t even sticking to his food and he can’t eat it!!! All the other coral is doing great. What is going on!!!!!!
Parameters are as follows
Calcium 425
Alkalinity 9.5
Magnesium 1,500
Phosphate.08
Temp 79
Salinity 1.025
PH 8.3
Help please!!!!!

Unfortunately this coral has a bad reputation for just going “poof”. Like Helio-Fungia. Been trying them for over 20 years, not one survived beyond a year.

All other corals good,,, I’d change nothing..

 

[vetteguy53081]

I use instant ocean reef salt I also have instant ocean aquarium salt that basically has no beneficial value could that work? How do I treat ECS?

Being an infectous microbe, often a frehwater dip will reverse it. I have heard of some utilizing seachem metroplex for cure but im leery of antibiotics with coral however would feel safe with 3% hydrogen peroxide

 

[MysticBlue]

Being an infectous microbe, often a frehwater dip will reverse it. I have heard of some utilizing seachem metroplex for cure but im leery of antibiotics with coral however would feel safe with 3% hydrogen peroxide

Ok so this would be my first time dipping a coral what do I do?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Ok so this would be my first time dipping a coral what do I do?

In a clean container, add freshwater, no RODI at same temperture as display tank and lower in for 3-5 minutes. Agitate in the water and Remove and return to display tank. You can add some 3%peroxide if you wish but skip for now as this is your first time.
Coral will be semi upset for an hour or two but then return to normal.

 

[Tcook]

Here is the article from Minh

Elegance Coral Syndrome Diagnose and Treatment with Fresh Water Dip

Elegance Coral, Catalaphyllia jardinei, is a LPS that is very beautiful easy and is one of my favorite LPS. Since early 2000, it was well known by reefers that Elegance coral is easy to care for, unless it contracted Elegance Coral Syndrome (ECS), a universally fatal disease with no known cure...

www.reef2reef.com

Fresh water dip as vetteguy says.

 

[Mark Novack]

Ca at 475 would be ideal for a 1500mg level. Those are high levels but a good ratio. I don't know where I got 1500mg but I just upped the Ca for the balance and water changes should bring them both down equally.

 

[MysticBlue]

In a clean container, add freshwater, no RODI at same temperture as display tank and lower in for 3-5 minutes. Agitate in the water and Remove and return to display tank. You can add some 3%peroxide if you wish but skip for now as this is your first time.
Coral will be semi upset for an hour or two but then return to normal.

So no rodi water? Just my regular tab water that he’s chlorine and other chemicals?

 

[MysticBlue]

Ca at 475 would be ideal for a 1500mg level. Those are high levels but a good ratio. I don't know where I got 1500mg but I just upped the Ca for the balance and water changes should bring them both down equally.

Just did that today it’s at 480 so I’m not going to try and chase it.

 

[vetteguy53081]

So no rodi water? Just my regular tab water that he’s chlorine and other chemicals?

Tap water yes as RODI offers no ph buffering