Feeling hopeless

You have enough advice thrown at you already so as someone who is also very new I will just make some general statements and ramble for a bit (actually ended up really long winded).

Something I have discovered the hard way:
Assume any one person or especially fish store is a moron.

There are a ton of different ways to do everything in this hobby and what worked for one person might wipe out the tank of another person due to some small difference.
There is also a big problem with this hobby constantly evolving and what was the right way a few years ago might suddenly be the worst thing you could do this year. That also makes it so that some new methods and some old methods, both of which might work very well separately will totally clash and cause big problems if mixed together.

There are a lot of extremely knowledgeable people with very successful tanks on here that might give you what is essentially outdated advice simply because its the method they have always used and don't see any reason to change what works, even if for someone starting out there might be a better new way.

Also for every certainty there are people with exceptions. For example it is commonly known that you don't want to put two yellow watchman gobies in the same tank because they tend to not get along and will potentially fight if there isn't enough territory. Unfortunately that wasn't commonly known to the idiot at the fish store who sold my wife who didn't know any better two of them at the same time (from separate tanks at the store), along with 5 azure damsels which is another very questionable decision for a 75 gallon. Luckily there is just barely enough room and rocks for all the damsels to find a spot and be territorial at least until they get bigger or my wife adds more fish, and she got super lucky in that the gobies decided they like eachother and live in the same hole under some rock (no shrimp) and come out to feed together at food time.

That last thing I found is go incremental on when you add things and make sure its in the right order (especially different fish species) but go full bore on the quality of what you add the first time around. Unless you are giving up the hobby at some point you will eventually end up replacing all the starter crap so just get the good quality high end full featured stuff from the get go.
Specifically at the moment that would apply to the RO/DI system you keep asking about.
In my opinion you will eventually want an ro/di so just get the right one now.
That is what I have, specifically the 75 gallon per day version. You get the higher output versions for a little bit more (only like $10 it looks like) if you want to make water faster. In my opinion this plus version of it that comes with the inline pressure gauge and TDS meter is a necessity to avoid problems slipping by you.
I don't know when someone would need more than the 4 stage as it just runs stuff through tighter carbon blocks twice it looks like with more stages. We have well water that makes a red sludge in the house water filter in only a few weeks and just the 4 stage gives me zero tds output. Its looking like the color change mixed di media will go before the other filters do.

Getting the right stuff for lighting and powerheads (not critical until coral get involved though it does effect algae) and whatnot is good to do right the first time. Controlability over power and timing on both of those things is pretty criticial and good stuff obviously costs more. Its very easy to buy cheap crap you will need to replace to get flow and lighting right on both of those. That is, its better to have too much and just turn it down than have not enough and have to replace.

I also had a heck of a time working out how to get the right flow to everywhere in the tank without blowing anything away. I still don't have that quite right. Normally I recommend people get the flow right before adding living stuff because it might require rearranging all sorts of stuff and moving the pumps 10 times which can be stressful to them.
But then it will also change after adding coral which will block water flow as they grow.

On that note figure out what coral you want ahead of time so you can get the lighting and flow almost right ahead of time and have compatible spots for everything you plan to get at least vaguely picked out.

I agree with the people that say don't panic, if the fish are happy the rest of the crap will get sorted out. I already nuked a new lawnmower blenny because of shoddy test equipment and mistakes letting the temp get up to 83 or 84 and a dkh of 6 the (acclimation was just too big a jump). So mess ups are to be expected.
Speaking of test equipment go with hanna digital testers for dkh and ulr phosphate if you want to save a ton of frustration with those worthless interpretive dancing chemical test ones, and make sure you have multiple good digital temp testers and a reliably reading old fashioned glass one hanging in the tank just to watch for major mechanical glitches.
 
Thank you for your advices. You are right, there are people here that’s been in the game for so many years and normally suggests things that’s outdated or what works for them. There was a post that a guy said to let my tank cycle and leave it alone. Especially if my fishes are not showing no signs of discomfort. Based on Knowing the basics of a reef tank forum, I can see I am cycling by having diatom. Now I am expecting for the next stage to happen. So, I am going to continue to let my tank cycle, fishes are doing great, I feed them every other day, so, I shouldn’t feel overwhelmed. I’ve been having these fishes for almost 2 weeks and they still haven’t died. I was fortunate to have fishes that are paired up. My LFS sold me fishes that were already paired up. I have paired up chromis and 2 clown fishes - one female and male (about 2 years old). All they do is swim around the tank together.

Also, I have been eyeing that rodi system. Based on the info you told me, I am just going to do more research and then decide if I want stage 4 or 5 because some people are telling me outdated things or things that works for them that are new. Most likely I’ll make my mind up tomorrow because when my water goes low I do not want to add any more tap water.

right now I have a 1250 gph powerhead, it does the job for now. But, eventually I want another powerhead for my sps corals in the future. Hopefully by the end of the year, I get corals. Although I know for sure I am getting the powerhead from current USA because I am able to control it. I have the current USA lighting so, I am able to connect my powerhead to the loop outlet.
My second time around, I am trying to become better in equipment wise as well. I had all the basics needs but I was upgrading. And I am aware in this hobby, upgrading will always occur. But, so far the fishes loves the lighting n powerhead. Therefore my primary goal is to let the tank cycle, get Hannah checker testing, a rodi equipment and current USA powerhead.
 
The basic of Reefkeeping have not change that much in 20 years. The basic for RO and RODI is the same, no change for ever. Circulation of a reef tank, lighting and automation improved a lot, but not really change. A 30+ years veteran of reefkeepers like me who have not chase the latest fad still know their stuff, but we may not know what is the most expensive automation program, or the most modern and expensive light, but we can still easily keep things a live.

In order to get the best RO system you need to know the basic and the principle of water filtration. Unless you know what each steps of the RO system do, you won't know what is needed or not needed. There is only tree essential steps to RO system. Pre filter to remove sediment, carbon filter to remove Chlorine which will destroy the RO membrane. The RO membrane which use presure gradient and the ionic properties of the RO membrane to reject impurities. Instead of addtional steps (4 stage added another carbon filter post membrane to "polish the water" and 5 steps ad another carbon filter pre membrane in case the first carbon is spend and not able to remove Chlorine.

Instead of 4 or 5 stages, I get inline monitors to continuously monitor the input and output water. If your water is very hard which ruin the RO membrane fast due to CaCO3 deposit on the membrane, I consider getting a water softener. Consider getting a inline booster pump if the pressure of your tab is low. This will drastically improve the efficiency of the unit.

Good RO membrane is a must. Spectrapure sale pretest RO membrane that reject 99+ impurities for a little more expensive while the cheap RO membrane that have rejection of about 93-95%

Good RO unit with get the impurities down to 4-10 part per million (ppm) while DI added at the end will get the impurities down to 0. This is not needed according to my 30+ years of experiences.

Going from dump tap water, prime to the tank (with fish in it) then add salt to adjust salinity to mix salt water with RO water then use this to change water, the will be a huge different in the stress level of the animals with water change.
 
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I am not going to give you any suggestions as this thread already has everything you need. Probably too much information, so I’ll contradict what I just said and suggest you take things slowly as much as you can.

I started my reef tank a little over 2 years ago after having kept FW fish for 30+ years. I watched videos and scoured the forums daily for over 3 months before I pulled the trigger and ordered a tank. I went with an LFS I trusted and asked them to recommend what I needed end to end after I chose the tank itself. I have been reading the forums daily ever since. My tank is overall going very well now.

What I figured out quickly that 30+ years of (admittedly basic) FW experience didn’t help much. I learned 1000% more in the first 6 months. Probably another 1000% more in the next 18 months. Still learning. So take plenty of deep breaths, be patient, measure, monitor, listen and learn. The journey is great fun but takes perseverance.

I’ve just ordered my 2nd tank (will be delivered Friday) and this time I knew close to exactly what I want. I also know how I am going to go about getting it up and running. I expect problems but are now better placed to deal with them, plus this forum is an absolutely wonderful source of information and inspiration.

Good luck!
 

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