Fish dead

[twiggy]

Just got home still alive but does look like he's got some sort of white spots on him today videos attached thanks

 

[twiggy]

I'm convinced the bright wel I used for algae must be an issue as now my frogspawn isn't fully open today either and hammer smaller than normal my alk is 9.2 calc 400 and mag 1300 phos is 0.24 down from 0.34 could this impact them as I have gha been trying to lower phosphate with phos guard I don't have a reactor as it's an all in one so have media baskets

 

[Unitylover]

I see the spots, it seems like velvet. Use ruby rally pro, as It cures brook and velvet, as we aren't sure

 

[Duffer]

i'm leaning towards velvet,especially he is hanging out at the flow. Fish will do this when their gills are clouded with velvet..

 

[twiggy]

thansk will ruby save him or do u think need to fallow for 72 days now and see

 

[Unitylover]

thansk will ruby save him or do u think need to fallow for 72 days now and see

ruby kills it, its also reef safe. If the clown is in DT, you can use in there and it will be safe with no need for fallow

 

[twiggy]

Ok thanks il try it the cuc and urchin seem
To fine just got to figure out what wrong with corals now as well all at once and don't know why

 

[twiggy]

is there anything else i can use instead of ruby rally pro ive been looking online and im from the uk and looks like only place i can get it from at moment wont be till march the 14th

 

[twiggy]

the ruby should arrive next week the clown fish is still alive so im not sure if it was velvet if he can still carry it reading online it seems some fish can be imune but then pass on to others so not sure what to do with him

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

the ruby should arrive next week the clown fish is still alive so im not sure if it was velvet if he can still carry it reading online it seems some fish can be imune but then pass on to others so not sure what to do with him

Well, with this timeline, I can safely say this isn't velvet - that disease does not linger on fish - they contract it and die fairly rapidly, usually in less than a week.

Can you post a new video?

Jay

 

[twiggy]

i can post another one later when home from work i did read online that some fish can be immune to velvet and incubate it for a period

• A small percentage of fish are thought to be capable of building up a natural or temporary immunity to velvet (and perhaps other parasites as well). Natural immunity is less understood, but temporary immunity usually only lasts 6 months max. During that time the fish is still a carrier and capable of infecting other fish. Over the years I have noticed this trend: Clownfish, mandarins and other fish with thick slime coats are often the only fish left standing following a velvet wipeout.

thanks

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

i can post another one later when home from work i did read online that some fish can be immune to velvet and incubate it for a period

• A small percentage of fish are thought to be capable of building up a natural or temporary immunity to velvet (and perhaps other parasites as well). Natural immunity is less understood, but temporary immunity usually only lasts 6 months max. During that time the fish is still a carrier and capable of infecting other fish. Over the years I have noticed this trend: Clownfish, mandarins and other fish with thick slime coats are often the only fish left standing following a velvet wipeout.

thanks

I know about this, but it is mostly from misapplied information from scientific papers like this:

Acquired immunity to amyloodiniosis is associated with an antibody response - PubMed

The dinoflagellate Amyloodinium ocellatum, which causes amyloodiniosis or 'marine velvet disease', is one of the most serious ectoparasitic diseases plaguing warmwater marine fish culture worldwide. We report that tomato clownfish Amphiprion frenatus develop strong immunity to Amyloodinium...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

In these experimental cases, the fish was challenged with non-lethal infections of Amyloodinium/velvet and acquired immunity over time. The trouble is that in home aquariums, the mortality rate for velvet is so high and so quick, that there is no real chance of the fish living long enough to build immunity. Then, there is a huge issue where people diagnose a disease as "velvet" but they are mistaken, and it is actually late stage Cryptocaryon (ich). Ich is much different, and fish that survive infections are often fish with thick slime coats, and then, reinfection is less likely due to some temporary immunity.

Jay

 

[twiggy]

ok thanks tank is only 10 months old so still learning a lot as its my first saltwater one but after this issue i have been tempted to get a bigger tank and set this one up as the quarantine tank and the bigger new one as the DT i will post another video later once home

 

[twiggy]

Hi tried to get a few videos could see the clown fish thanks

 

[twiggy]

he is also eating food normally if this makes a diffrence

 

[Unitylover]

he is eating, so thats good. He should be able to survive until ruby rally comes

he is also eating food normally if this makes a diffrence

 

[twiggy]

Photo as well of it helps I'd thanks