Fish Vendor Question

cancun · Jul 4, 2018

3mm3 said:
I just happen to be in a bad area for our hobby. Closest and best saltwater store within an hour drive is petco. It's actually pretty good but they have limited stock.

I gotcha, that's tough!!! Sorry about your foxface....are you going to place another order?

3mm3 · Jul 4, 2018

cancun said:
I gotcha, that's tough!!! Sorry about your foxface....are you going to place another order?

Yes I'll be on the hunt all night for one.

paphater · Jul 5, 2018

3mm3 said:
Yes I'll be on the hunt all night for one.

There will be a magnificent foxface in todays divers den. There is also a 20% off coupon.

3mm3 · Jul 5, 2018

Magnificent didn't make it through the night...

3mm3 · Jul 6, 2018

paphater said:
There will be a magnificent foxface in todays divers den. There is also a 20% off coupon.

Thanks for the heads up! He arrives tomorrow

cancun · Jul 7, 2018

3mm3 said:
Thanks for the heads up! He arrives tomorrow

That's great!!! Let us know how this one does! Have you decided how you are going to acclimate him?

3mm3 · Jul 7, 2018

cancun said:
That's great!!! Let us know how this one does! Have you decided how you are going to acclimate him?

I'll put the fish through TTM. When that runs it's course Ill place him into the observation tank. Just currently debating on running this fish through safety stop prior to TTM though.

3mm3 · Jul 7, 2018

Quick question. With Divers Den they list SG @ 1.025.
Fish should arrive soon so prepping salt. Should I go with the 1.025 expecting it to be in fact arriving with the same?

paphater · Jul 7, 2018

My orders through them have always been fairly close to that. I think the lowest I have ever gotten was 1.023.

Mark Gray · Jul 7, 2018

I hear that Humblefish will be starting a QT business soon

Greenstreet.1 · Jul 7, 2018

Mark Gray said:
I hear that Humblefish will be starting a QT business soon

Yes he is a few reefers already got fish from him.

3mm3 · Jul 7, 2018

Mark Gray said:
I hear that Humblefish will be starting a QT business soon

I definitely look forward to this beginning! I feel this is a definite improvement in the hobby

3mm3 · Jul 7, 2018

paphater said:
My orders through them have always been fairly close to that. I think the lowest I have ever gotten was 1.023.

Thank you

rockskimmerflow · Jul 7, 2018

Really tough to stay in business and offer truly fully QT'd and vetted fish with a warranty. I do it, but only offer the service to my private clients who have ongoing tank maintenance accounts. It saves me money in the long run by having as near zero fish losses in client tanks as possible which leads to less nonscheduled service requests and a very robust referral network from satisfied customers who see the difference. Now, do I make money on the fish sales themselves? No. I pretty much break even when factoring in how much loss I deal with and labor is put into each fish. I charge a higher than standard retail price, but its barely enough to cover my associated fish QT overhead.

cancun · Jul 7, 2018

rockskimmerflow said:
Really tough to stay in business and offer truly fully QT'd and vetted fish with a warranty. I do it, but only offer the service to my private clients who have ongoing tank maintenance accounts. It saves me money in the long run by having as near zero fish losses in client tanks as possible which leads to less nonscheduled service requests and a very robust referral network from satisfied customers who see the difference. Now, do I make money on the fish sales themselves? No. I pretty much break even when factoring in how much loss I deal with and labor is put into each fish. I charge a higher than standard retail price, but its barely enough to cover my associated fish QT overhead.

Wow....I wish you lived by me!

cancun · Jul 7, 2018

3mm3 said:
I'll put the fish through TTM. When that runs it's course Ill place him into the observation tank. Just currently debating on running this fish through safety stop prior to TTM though.

Did you get your fish yet?

3mm3 · Jul 7, 2018

cancun said:
Did you get your fish yet?

Fish arrived almost an hour ago. Ups took their time but not a big deal. The ups driver's handling of the box is another story. To summarize I ran to him to save my fish.

Well I have to laugh. I made 1 system 1.023 and 1 system 1.025. Fish came in with 1.026.

Currently running the fish through safety stop.

I must thank divers den . This was without a doubt the best packed aquatic item I have ever received. The water did have ammonia built up but I expected that. However that brought about a question. If you ship a fish and it pops the shipping bag would that cause a detrimental build up of ammonia in shipping? I ask because the foxface that died did indeed pop the bags and lots of water had leaked out. Thoughts?

paphater · Jul 7, 2018

3mm3 said:
Fish arrived almost an hour ago. Ups took their time but not a big deal. The ups driver's handling of the box is another story. To summarize I ran to him to save my fish.

Well I have to laugh. I made 1 system 1.023 and 1 system 1.025. Fish came in with 1.026.

Currently running the fish through safety stop.

I must thank divers den . This was without a doubt the best packed aquatic item I have ever received. The water did have ammonia built up but I expected that. However that brought about a question. If you ship a fish and it pops the shipping bag would that cause a detrimental build up of ammonia in shipping? I ask because the foxface that died did indeed pop the bags and lots of water had leaked out. Thoughts?

I think the CO2 would have to completely off gas meaning all layers were punctured, and I think at that point you have to start worrying about the fish being out of water. So either way he probably didn't stand a chance.

cancun · Jul 7, 2018

3mm3 said:
Fish arrived almost an hour ago. Ups took their time but not a big deal. The ups driver's handling of the box is another story. To summarize I ran to him to save my fish.

Well I have to laugh. I made 1 system 1.023 and 1 system 1.025. Fish came in with 1.026.

Currently running the fish through safety stop.

I must thank divers den . This was without a doubt the best packed aquatic item I have ever received. The water did have ammonia built up but I expected that. However that brought about a question. If you ship a fish and it pops the shipping bag would that cause a detrimental build up of ammonia in shipping? I ask because the foxface that died did indeed pop the bags and lots of water had leaked out. Thoughts?

Glad you got your fish....keep us posted on the progress!!! [emoji16]

3mm3 · Jul 7, 2018

paphater said:
I think the CO2 would have to completely off gas meaning all layers were punctured, and I think at that point you have to start worrying about the fish being out of water. So either way he probably didn't stand a chance.

Unfortunately all bags on the first foxface where punctured. Still had water but a lot had leaked out.