Flukes?

veselym · Nov 10, 2014

does this sound like flukes or Ich

I have a one spot fox face, starry blenny, trio of pajama cardinals and pair of clowns in my 180.

The Blenny has very cloudy eyes along with the fox face...the blenny has flashed once or twice but not all the time and the clowns have done it but not every day. The female clowns also sometimes freaks out and shakes her head then scratches it on the sandbed.

No one has spots except for the Fox Face, he had 3 larger ones for a day then they were gone...he also has a fray on his back fin where one spot was

Cardinals don't appear to have any spots or cloudy eyes

everyone eats well

I though it was ich when the Fox Face got spots but they literally were only there a day and were spaced apart/larger

veselym · Nov 10, 2014

I do have prazi pro that I can treat the tank with

JOKER · Nov 10, 2014

Following, my foxface also gets few spots from time to time that will only be there a day or so. None of the other fish have any signs and he is FAT!!

sawdonkey · Nov 10, 2014

Sounds like flukes. A FW dip will confirm for you. Prazi works great, but takes multiple doses.

veselym · Nov 10, 2014

mine is fat and eats a lot as well...his color is a little faded though and the cloudy eyes

I am about 80% certain it is flukes but would like some opinions

veselym · Nov 10, 2014

I would rather use prazi...FW dips are pretty stressful

veselym · Nov 10, 2014

ok it is Flukes, just got a really good look at my Fox Faces eyes and saw the flukes...I dosed Prazi an our ago so that's prob why I can see them now

sawdonkey · Nov 10, 2014

veselym said:
I would rather use prazi...FW dips are pretty stressful

I'm not suggesting you do the FW dip to treat the fish. I'm suggesting you do the dip to confirm if it's flukes. I they are flukes, they will pop off the fish in the FW and will look like sesame seeds. Do it in a dark container or a clear bag.

If you confirm it is flukes, then do Prazi.

sawdonkey · Nov 10, 2014

Didn't see your second post. Flukes are no big deal, you'll beat them. Good luck.

veselym · Nov 10, 2014

I can see multiple seed like objects in his eyes...before they were completely hazy but now I can definitely see defined objects

Humblefish · Nov 10, 2014

2 rounds of Prazipro, spaced 5-7 days apart should knock it out if it is flukes. However, as mentioned above, only a FW dip will confirm whether or not you are actually dealing with flukes.

Humblefish · Nov 10, 2014

veselym said:
I can see multiple seed like objects in his eyes...before they were completely hazy but now I can definitely see defined objects

Does it look like this?

veselym · Nov 10, 2014

Humblefish · Nov 10, 2014

veselym said:
yep

Those are flukes that have reached the eyes. You need to treat with Prazipro ASAP. Personally, I would give this fish a FW dip beforehand to provide some immediate relief. No longer than 5 mins. You should see white flukes pour out of his gills & eyes at around the 2-3 min mark. Aerate the FW dip water well, and temp & pH match it.

veselym · Nov 10, 2014

I have already dosed prazi, going to wait 5 days then do a WC and dose again

sawdonkey · Nov 10, 2014

Humblefish said:
Those are flukes that have reached the eyes. You need to treat with Prazipro ASAP. Personally, I would give this fish a FW dip beforehand to provide some immediate relief. No longer than 5 mins. You should see white flukes pour out of his gills & eyes at around the 2-3 min mark. Aerate the FW dip water well, and temp & pH match it.

Is second this if they are on they eyes. You don't want permanent eye damage. I had to dip my Niger trigger because of this.

veselym · Nov 10, 2014

There is no way I can dip him without tearing my tank down to catch him

veselym · Nov 10, 2014

I know, I should have them in QT but they were purchased from LA DD...kind of upset considering they are suppose to QT their fish, I get having ICH but flukes from DD??

Humblefish · Nov 10, 2014

veselym said:
I know, I should have them in QT but they were purchased from LA DD...kind of upset considering they are suppose to QT their fish, I get having ICH but flukes from DD??

LA DD soaks fish food with Prazipro, which probably kills flukes but not any eggs. So, they just come right back. You have to treat with Prazi again, 5-7 days after the initial dosage, to eradicate the "next generation" of flukes before they have time to lay eggs of their own.