Frag tank set up ....

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How do you guys have yours set up?? Is it by it's self or plumbed into the display??? I'm tired of my display looking like a frag tank so I'm gonna take the plunge and do a frag tank since I have another mh setup and a 12 bulb t5 retro which I think I'm gonna use.. I don't have a skimmer but my display could handle it if I plumbed them together no problem.. Thoughts??? I'm itching for a build lol.. I knocked out 4 sumps a display and 2 stands last week now bored...:(
 
I've got mine tied into the display. Just dropped another return pump into the sump, fed the drain hose from frag into sump, and just like that I've added a 4' frag tank.

I've got a second frag of the same size I'll be setting up into a large plastic tub as a sump, the ones you find in farm stores. I'll tie it into a 40 breeder I have up and running, hoping the added gallons will help stabilize that tank.

My newest project, and one which I need some help with, is putting together a closed loop system incoprorating 12 individual 15 gallon tanks, I'm going to frag particular types in its own little tank.

Not quite sure how to do that, I figure another big farm sump but not sure how big of a return pump I'll need. I'm wondering if I'll need two pumps and maybe split the tanks into two separate systems both of which dumping into the same sump.


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I have a totally seperate frag system. The bottom and top tier are plumbed seperately but obviously use the same sump. The bottom tier has scwd's into each section.

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Here are some updated pics of the current setup.
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should have scraped the algae off the front



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The sump - think it's time to change out the socks?
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jebo protein skimmer
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fuge
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pumps & chiller
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MD to Frag tank

How do you guys have yours set up?? Is it by it's self or plumbed into the display???

I'm taking a different route. I have my main tank gravity feeding into the frag tank, then from the frag tank down to the sump, then back to the main tank. Just seemed easier to use one pump and the frag tanks naturally sit lower than the displays, so it's why I choose this method.
 
mine is plumbed into the main tank. 1 water change for all. the frag tank is actually hanging from the ceiling above the display, and both are plumbed to a common sump.
the frag tank has it's own return pump as well.-
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The easy route is to plumb to the main system but having it separate is nicer. If a crash happens in the main, it won't impact the frag tank and you can also use it to save things from the crash.
 
I have mine plumbed in to the display as well. Just like others I just added a return pump.
Here is an old photo
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Wow great set ups every body...
Kraylen that last post is what I want to know.. Is it better or twice the work?? Rite now I can run my drain from the display to the frag tank and from the frag to the sump real easy... No extra pumps and no extra dosing etc.. 2 tanks thou on the other hand seperate is nice because if one did crash it's not a total loss.... Hmm..
 
I look at it this way, if you have one system with everything tied in and something happens while you are gone.... BOOM, death.

If you have two systems and a heater explodes in one.. you will be doing A LOT less work trying to get back to 100% again... If your entire system crashes you are at ground zero.....

A second system to me is like insurance... sure, you can work less and not have it.. but when tragedy strikes, you will be wishing you had put in the extra work.
 
I look at it this way, if you have one system with everything tied in and something happens while you are gone.... BOOM, death.

If you have two systems and a heater explodes in one.. you will be doing A LOT less work trying to get back to 100% again... If your entire system crashes you are at ground zero.....

A second system to me is like insurance... sure, you can work less and not have it.. but when tragedy strikes, you will be wishing you had put in the extra work.
This is exactly why I do it. It's also a good idea to keep some frags of your favorite stuff in the separate system. It always happens to the guy that says "It's never happened to me I'm not worried about"

It's never happened to me but I am worried about it. We dump tens of thousands of dollars in these little boxes. It's like insurance.

It's more work but worth it.
 
wow! I was going to set up a frag tank and tie it in with the display tank, but now you guys have me thinking.
 
wow! I was going to set up a frag tank and tie it in with the display tank, but now you guys have me thinking.

+1 lol... That's where I am at... Kraylens theory is the one I feel is better and considered but it's hard to do it knowing my display would be better off with the extra water volume and my skimmer would love the extra nutrients since it is a little over kill... Plus the money savings of not having 2 sumps,2 skimmers etc... I'm the type to go all out so if i do it seperate it's just not gonna be a frag tank lol... It has to be one of a kind and all that good stuff...;)
Maybe we should post a poll about it????
 
Well, there's something else to consider I think, and that is what sort of corals do you plan on propagating. I started out with the common mushrooms, zoanthid, softies, LPS, kind of stuff in my display. My frag tank tied into that display had a similar livestock list. Now that I have progressed, I no longer have softies, no LPS to speak of, the mushrooms have become a nuisance in my display, and my zoanthids don't seem to like my new dosing regimen. I'm getting heavy into the SPS corals which require a whole different setup than the more common stuff. The best way to setup a system may be dependent on your cash flow and the type of corals you plan on propagating.

For example I've got an entire 2nd setup, this frag tank will be tied into a 40 gallon breeder and will be primarily zoanthids. I've got a 4' TEK light for it and have no plans to dose, just WCs. I'm hoping that it will be cheaper to run that setup and won't have to worry as much about pristine water. With two setups I can mix and match a little bit which helps counter the issue of a tank crash wiping out the whole shebang.

Heck, I just purchased these 15 gallon frag tanks which I'm gonna be making into a 3rd system, each one of those will hold something different, maybe try my hand at breeding some fish. Again, it will give me the chance to diversify in case something should happen and really don't add a whole lot of cost short of a few x-tra light fixtures but heck thats an easy enough DIY project when you don't have to worry about how it looks.

If you have only one display tank, then you probably only need to tie a single frag tank into it. If the big display crashes losing the frags in a small prop tank will be the least of your concerns. You can counter that concern by giving some frags to friends with a larger system as insurance. I'm holding frags for other people.
 
I look at it this way, if you have one system with everything tied in and something happens while you are gone.... BOOM, death.

If you have two systems and a heater explodes in one.. you will be doing A LOT less work trying to get back to 100% again... If your entire system crashes you are at ground zero.....

A second system to me is like insurance... sure, you can work less and not have it.. but when tragedy strikes, you will be wishing you had put in the extra work.
if a heater explodes in my system, nothing happens except the other 4 take up the slack. tragedy doesn't strike unless you are careless.
 
I like the 2 systems Plan yes more work but less stress if something was to happen can even do a grow out tied into the system and a frag on a separate system. it also had me thinking and re planning my build with the 100 gal tank I will just keep it stock no cutting and run its own system in the garage with own sump and all frags grow out everything I was planning to gravity feed from the 240 then down to the sump etc. and back in the 240. more work yes but ease of mind when disaster strikes. need a spare pump? if so I have a Ikiwa how ever it is spelt I will send it back with my moms she flys up weds from vegas and goes back sun.
 
if a heater explodes in my system, nothing happens except the other 4 take up the slack. tragedy doesn't strike unless you are careless.


Right.

Go read some heater explosion stories... houses burn down :p
 
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