Frayed fins?

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I have noticed that my clowns and my sailfin tang have frayed fins. Also I noticed one of my clownfish has a little bit of it's fun missing and also it has a white spot above his head. I don't remember if the white spot was there before or if it's something he just developed.
 
Were any of these fish Qt'd and treated before into into the display? Are they fighting with each other? Flashing or rubbing against any rocks or sand?
 
Were any of these fish Qt'd and treated before into into the display? Are they fighting with each other? Flashing or rubbing against any rocks or sand?
This is my first tank I've ever done so I didn't know the importance of having a quarantine tank until recently. I would set one up but my budget won't allow that lol. I've never noticed them fighting with each other. They get along quite well. I've also never seen them rub up against the rocks or sand.
 
This is my first tank I've ever done so I didn't know the importance of having a quarantine tank until recently. I would set one up but my budget won't allow that lol. I've never noticed them fighting with each other. They get along quite well. I've also never seen them rub up against the rocks or sand.

Ok. Pictures will help a lot. Clear close ups please. Also, are you seeing any heavy breathing on them? White spots on any of the fish besides the one you mentioned? Would you be willing to perform a freshwater dip? <This is a great diagnostic tool.

Freshwater Dip: Provides temporary relief for Brooklynella, Flukes, Marine Velvet disease (Amyloodinium); possibly even Ich & Uronema marinum (both unproven). Can be used to confirm the presence of Flukes.

How To Treat - Fill a bucket with RODI water, and use a heater to match the temperature to the water the fish is coming from. Aerate the water heavily for at least 30 minutes prior to doing the dip, then discontinue aeration while performing the dip. Fish aren’t overly pH sensitive for short durations like this, but you can squirt a little tank water into the dip just before the fish goes in to help bring it up.

Place the fish in the freshwater (FW) dip and observe closely. It is not unusual for them to freak out a little at first. Also, tangs are notorious for “playing dead” during a FW dip. The important thing is to watch their gills; they should be breathing heavily at all times during the dip. If breathing slows, it’s time to exit the dip. Dip the fish for no longer than 5 minutes. Multiple dips may be done, but it’s important to give your fish a day to recuperate in-between dips.

For flukes, use a dark (preferably black) bucket so you can see if tiny white worms fall out of the fish (especially out of the gills) at around the 3-4 minute mark. The worms will settle to the bottom, so you can use a flashlight to look for them there as well.

Pros - Provides temporary relief for a wide range of diseases in a chemical free environment. Can “buy you more time” until a proper treatment can be done.

Cons/Side Effects - Not a permanent “fix” for any disease, as FW dips are not potent enough to eradicate all of the parasites/worms afflicting the fish. Some fish can have an adverse reaction to a FW dip by appearing unable to maintain their equilibrium once returned to the aquarium. If this happens, hold the fish upright (using latex, nitrile or rubber gloves), and gently glide him through the water (to get saltwater flowing through the gills again). It is also a good idea to place the fish in an acclimation box until he appears “normal”.
 
Ok. Pictures will help a lot. Clear close ups please. Also, are you seeing any heavy breathing on them? White spots on any of the fish besides the one you mentioned? Would you be willing to perform a freshwater dip? <This is a great diagnostic tool.

Freshwater Dip: Provides temporary relief for Brooklynella, Flukes, Marine Velvet disease (Amyloodinium); possibly even Ich & Uronema marinum (both unproven). Can be used to confirm the presence of Flukes.

How To Treat - Fill a bucket with RODI water, and use a heater to match the temperature to the water the fish is coming from. Aerate the water heavily for at least 30 minutes prior to doing the dip, then discontinue aeration while performing the dip. Fish aren’t overly pH sensitive for short durations like this, but you can squirt a little tank water into the dip just before the fish goes in to help bring it up.

Place the fish in the freshwater (FW) dip and observe closely. It is not unusual for them to freak out a little at first. Also, tangs are notorious for “playing dead” during a FW dip. The important thing is to watch their gills; they should be breathing heavily at all times during the dip. If breathing slows, it’s time to exit the dip. Dip the fish for no longer than 5 minutes. Multiple dips may be done, but it’s important to give your fish a day to recuperate in-between dips.

For flukes, use a dark (preferably black) bucket so you can see if tiny white worms fall out of the fish (especially out of the gills) at around the 3-4 minute mark. The worms will settle to the bottom, so you can use a flashlight to look for them there as well.

Pros - Provides temporary relief for a wide range of diseases in a chemical free environment. Can “buy you more time” until a proper treatment can be done.

Cons/Side Effects - Not a permanent “fix” for any disease, as FW dips are not potent enough to eradicate all of the parasites/worms afflicting the fish. Some fish can have an adverse reaction to a FW dip by appearing unable to maintain their equilibrium once returned to the aquarium. If this happens, hold the fish upright (using latex, nitrile or rubber gloves), and gently glide him through the water (to get saltwater flowing through the gills again). It is also a good idea to place the fish in an acclimation box until he appears “normal”.
Sorry for the low quality photos. Best I could do.

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Ok. That's way better than I thought it was going to be. If they arn't displaying any other symptoms of anything (heavy breathing, rubbing on rock/sand, yawning ect) then I would just wait and see what happens. Their fins look fine to me really....just that tiny bit at the bottom of the tang. The clown may have been stung by something if you have any coral or nems. Not too sure on that one yet, but again.... I'd advise the "wait, watch and see". Start getting your QT put together so you can quarantine new additions from now on and it will be ready in case these guys need treatment later.
 
Ok. That's way better than I thought it was going to be. If they arn't displaying any other symptoms of anything (heavy breathing, rubbing on rock/sand, yawning ect) then I would just wait and see what happens. Their fins look fine to me really....just that tiny bit at the bottom of the tang. The clown may have been stung by something if you have any coral or nems. Not too sure on that one yet, but again.... I'd advise the "wait, watch and see". Start getting your QT put together so you can quarantine new additions from now on and it will be ready in case these guys need treatment later.
Yea I might have been overreacting a bit lol. I just wanted to be safe than sorry. Wouldn't want to lose one of these guys. Thank you!
 
Keep a close eye on that white patch on the clown. Let us know if it changes right away.
 
Im just not sure what it is. Could be an injury or something else. If hes acting and eating normal, then just watch it let let us know if it changes. Humblefish will be along in the AM probably and give his oppinion as well.
 
I'm a little concerned about the white patch on the clown. Can you get a closeup pic of that and also give us a detailed description? How long have you had him? Does it appear as though his skin is peeling or sloughing off in any way?
 
I'm a little concerned about the white patch on the clown. Can you get a closeup pic of that and also give us a detailed description? How long have you had him? Does it appear as though his skin is peeling or sloughing off in any way?

I'm glad you see it too!
 
I'm a little concerned about the white patch on the clown. Can you get a closeup pic of that and also give us a detailed description? How long have you had him? Does it appear as though his skin is peeling or sloughing off in any way?
It looks a little dark around the edges of it but in the middle it's almost as white as his stripe. I've had him for about 4 months. His skin looks good and isn't peeling.

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I wanna say that's a sting, but coral sings are usually red. I'm going to leave this one to @Humblefish.
 
I don't think that's a coral sting. Could be a slight infection, but I'm really not 100% sure.

This is what I would do: Start soaking his food in vitamin supplements (exs. Selcon, Zoecon, Vita-chem). Hopefully that will boost his immune system enough to handle this naturally. Clownfish are tough. ;) But just in case it doesn't, you might want to setup a QT (a good idea anyway) and see if you can locate any of the following meds: Furan-2, Seachem Kanaplex, Seachem Metroplex.

I'm not saying you need to buy all of those right now, but just see if they can be sourced locally just in case. :)
 
Can I add the meds straight to the tank instead of using a QT?

None are reef safe (I saw zoas in one of your pics). However, both Kanaplex & Metroplex can be soaked in fish food if you also use Seachem Focus to bind the medicine to the food. There will still be minimal leaching but for this you can run carbon to take any residuals out of the water.
 
I noticed this black dot on my other clown this morning. Could it be related to the problem my other clown has or is it something else. Or is it nothing at all lol. I'm gonna try and find some of those meds this weekend and try to set up a quarantine tank. Also I spotted some kind of really small looking white thing crawling in the sand a moment ago. I want to say it kind of looked like a worm but I'm not sure. I've seen a couple before hanging out in the zoas. Are these normal to have?

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The things crawling around your tank are probably pods, which are great to have. Was that spot there before? With the precautions and meds your going to be feeding to the other clown, this one will eat it too. I think he's ok. Just watch it, like the other and let us know if it gets worse.
 

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