Frogspawn emergency- unplugged heads

Braunreffer · Jul 24, 2020

Hi reefers.

I woke ups with a nasty image of 2 heads of my recently spplited and completely puffy frogspawn unpligged from my coral. Image attached.

Is in a low flow area, my parameters are
Dkh 8.5
Nitrates 10
Salinity 1.026
Calc 420
Mag 1300
Temp 78

I have 1 week under vibrant ans made a 1 grade alk adjustment las week

Any ideas???

Lewbo · Jul 24, 2020

Hey buddy, that's really unusual to happen without warning, how long have they been in the tank? 1 week? If so, how did you acclimatise. I've always kept Euphyllia in medium to high flow (although you can usually tell if they are unhappy as they won't expand.

BighohoReef · Jul 24, 2020

Strange to do that after a week the other head looks okay. You aren’t seeing anything at the base are you? I keep most of my non-torch euphyllia in low to moderate flow. Low to moderate lighting. Your parameters look in line and I’ve never had issue with vibrant unless I stopped doing water changes.

At this point the heads don’t look like they are dying yet I would collect those bits and put them in a Tupperware with some of you substrate. Though if they look dead or brown jelly like I’d remove it altogether. I also might frag the healthy remaining head just in case there is something on the skeleton of the other “exited” heads.

can you take another picture with the lights on?

Braunreffer · Jul 24, 2020

BighohoReef said:
Strange to do that after a week the other head looks okay. You aren’t seeing anything at the base are you? I keep most of my non-torch euphyllia in low to moderate flow. Low to moderate lighting. Your parameters look in line and I’ve never had issue with vibrant unless I stopped doing water changes.

At this point the heads don’t look like they are dying yet I would collect those bits and put them in a Tupperware with some of you substrate. Though if they look dead or brown jelly like I’d remove it altogether. I also might frag the healthy remaining head just in case there is something on the skeleton of the other “exited” heads.

can you take another picture with the lights on?

Yes let me wait until light turn on and will take pics of it and the lose heads

No brown jelly

BighohoReef · Jul 24, 2020

Try putting sand in a Tupperware or cup and place them in there to protect against flow. Inspect the skeleton as well for any pests, sponges , etc.

Angelwolf21203 · Jul 24, 2020

Following. Could the coral be "abandoning" those heads, for some reason? Like pests or disease? I'm shooting in the dark, here, but I'm interested to see what others say.

BighohoReef · Jul 24, 2020

Similar situation has happened to me once before...

Here’s where we are today:

Lewbo · Jul 24, 2020

I've seen this happen with shock before, which is why I ask re acclimation. The flesh remains alive and as other have said can be saved by putting in the sand or in a shell - although recovery is difficult.

kartrsu · Jul 24, 2020

Whoa so if the polyps bail out, a new skeleton can form?!

Markxc · Jul 24, 2020

BighohoReef said:
Similar situation has happened to me once before...

Here’s where we are today:

did the head form a new skeleton or did the skeleton form a new head?

Lewbo · Jul 24, 2020

kartrsu said:
Whoa so if the polyps bail out, a new skeleton can form?!

Yes but the success rate is low in my experience - but some have definitely had success.

Braunreffer · Jul 24, 2020

Lewbo said:
Yes but the success rate is low in my experience - but some have definitely had success.

Lewbo · Jul 24, 2020

Yeh if you have a shell, stick it in there or wedge in a rock (Not too much flow). Keep an eye on it though and if it starts to go into brown jelly - get it out ASAP. It’s a small risk if you have other Euphyllia as brown jelly can pass quickly

Braunreffer · Jul 24, 2020

Lewbo said:
Yeh if you have a shell, stick it in there or wedge in a rock (Not too much flow). Keep an eye on it though and if it starts to go into brown jelly - get it out ASAP. It’s a small risk if you have other Euphyllia as brown jelly can pass quickly

I can put it back to its shell

BighohoReef · Jul 24, 2020

Markxc said:
did the head form a new skeleton or did the skeleton form a new head?

The head formed a new skeleton, but I've heard it works both ways. That piece has been growing about 2 years.

Braunreffer · Jul 24, 2020

Another, now a hammer just flew away

Braunreffer · Jul 24, 2020

Could it be a foxface eating them?

Lewbo · Jul 25, 2020

we need to work out why they’re detaching if you have had a second. Did you get them at the same time? And how did you acclimatise. Check all your stats again, esp temp

(When I say shell I mean an empty snail shell or hermit shell, if you don’t have one, sand. Do not put back on it’s skeleton)

Braunreffer · Jul 25, 2020

Lewbo said:
we need to work out why they’re detaching if you have had a second. Did you get them at the same time? And how did you acclimatise. Check all your stats again, esp temp

(When I say shell I mean an empty snail shell or hermit shell, if you don’t have one, sand. Do not put back on it’s skeleton)

They are old euphylias, have been 6 and 4 months with me both growing heads.

My parameters are the same. Temp is good as well.

My bet now is a foxface as other euphilya, this is new, hasmve some bite-like marks

Braunreffer · Jul 25, 2020

Lewbo said:
we need to work out why they’re detaching if you have had a second. Did you get them at the same time? And how did you acclimatise. Check all your stats again, esp temp

(When I say shell I mean an empty snail shell or hermit shell, if you don’t have one, sand. Do not put back on it’s skeleton)

By shell you mean i put them i side shell hole?