Frogspawn Mesenterial filaments

Shirak · Mar 10, 2022

If it looks like they are improving it might be best to just leave things alone and see how they look tomorrow. Maybe a light feeding to the tank. Picture would be good.

Sharkbait19 · Mar 10, 2022

Pardon the glass algae:

This one has always been my healthiest, and covered the entire skeleton only a few days ago, so I think it’ll pull through. Still not much tissue growth, but it’s out more than before:

This one is the only one that has me really concerned. More flesh out than before, but it just seems too far gone:

This one here looks bad, but previously all I saw was skeleton and no flesh at all, so it’s slowly improving:

Same deal with this one. This one was the first one pictured, if you want to compare:

Still pretty rough, but I think if I continue to do what I’m doing, they may have a slight chance.

Sharkbait19 · Mar 10, 2022

Some top down shots:

Shirak · Mar 10, 2022

They are looking better and more inflated. I would continue your current course and monitor closely, especially for any signs of slimy brown jelly. That single one in the corner is in pretty bad shape and could go either way.

Sharkbait19 · Mar 10, 2022

I should mention that this part was smothered by a leather coral, and pretty much disappeared. I moved it away a few days ago, and it has been fluctuating between good and awful. It looks rather infected, but I checked to see if it was BJD, and nothing “blew off” the way the disease usually does. However, I’m ready to take this one out if/when it does get infected. I got this one in a bogo sale, so at least it won’t be a major financial loss…

Shirak · Mar 10, 2022

Looks to me like some very thin flesh over the skeleton. I wouldn't try feeding them directly yet. Food particles down in the grooves of the skeleton would be bad. A little liquid food like aminos or something similar, even just some juice from frozen mysis might help.

Sharkbait19 · Mar 10, 2022

Sounds good. I’ll definitely keep you up to date, hopefully good news!

EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal · Mar 10, 2022

If your tank is still dominated by leathers, you might end up having ongoing problems with the euphyllia. If you decide to move them (I know you want to leave them undisturbed for the moment), you might try placing them "upstream" of the leathers in terms of flow (easier said than done, I know).
Leathers and mushrooms can result in a lot of chemical warfare in a smaller tank, and LPS can suffer without periodic carbon, frequent water changes, etc.

Good luck!

Wasabiroot · Mar 10, 2022

If it was me (take my opinion only as a grain of salt) I would maybe treat the tank with antibiotic prophylactically after you get your water stable rather than dip your euphyllia. There is a potential for BJD (look for rapid brown mushifying) but I don't think iodine does much once it's set in. I think ciprofloxacin?? Someone more experienced might be able to chip in here. I think euphyllia seem more sensitive to all dipping than most other lps (again, just my opinion) and they are particularly vulnerable right now so further irritation is risky.
I think you've got a few months before the hammers look normal again. #1 priority is ensuring parameters are stable or in good ranges. I recommend Salifert dKh. Easy to use and precise enough. If you already have one please disregard. I'm pulling for those hammers! You may lose a few (a couple look rough).

Wasabiroot · Mar 10, 2022

One more thing: treating a tank with antibiotics isn't 100% proven as the best course for BJD, and comes with its own things you need to track.

Sharkbait19 · Mar 11, 2022

Update:
Most of the frogspawns look much better:

Unfortunately, the one in the corner got BJD. I pulled it out, and will maybe do a water change, because I think that the leathers are causing some chem warfare. What scares me is that this one was under the most flow, so who knows how much has spread across the tank….

Sharkbait19 · Mar 11, 2022

To think only a couple months ago, it was like this…

Sharkbait19 · Mar 11, 2022

I did another water change. After that, the flesh really started to cover the skeleton once more. Then a few hours later, they reverted back to their present condition. I’m at a loss, and I definitely think all the frogspawns are done for…

Sharkbait19 · Mar 13, 2022

They’re starting to turn around again. They seem very irritated, however, and quite sensitive to light. At nighttime, they are more open than when the lights turn on.

EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal · Mar 13, 2022

That sure is strange! Maybe with whatever trauma they experienced, they need lower lighting for a while...?

I think the long term answer is a second tank

Sharkbait19 · Mar 13, 2022

Erin1971Texas said:
That sure is strange! Maybe with whatever trauma they experienced, they need lower lighting for a while...?

I think the long term answer is a second tank

Good thing I’m in the process of upgrading!

Sharkbait19 · Mar 19, 2022

Update:
I upgraded to the new tank on Wednesday, and I believe the stress of a new tank made the frogspawns become far worse:

Not only is there rapid recession, but algae is growing on the exposed skeleton. So in a last ditch effort, I performed a 25 minute iodine dip and stuck all three in the sandbed. So far, the results are actually pretty promising!

I’ll keep you all up to date!

Sharkbait19 · Mar 21, 2022

Update:
They still didn’t look great, so I moved the flow slightly away from the frogspawns, and one has now fully recovered. The other two, however, remained in poor condition, so I decided to dip them again and put them in isolation, in the event that they contract BJD. They are looking better so far, and hopefully will be able to return to the main display.

Shirak · Mar 21, 2022

Well they are looking ok I guess for what they have been through. Going to take a lot of TLC and time to recover. Best to just keep an eye on them and keep things as stable as possible so they can settle in and do their thing.