Fumanchu lionfish?

[Scott Peters Sr]

Hey gang,
Starting my third reef aquarium and want it to be an aggressive community. It is a 65 gallon tank and I would like something compatible with a snowflake eel. I would love a smaller lionfish that will be friendly with the eel and reef safe. Anyone have experience with the fumanchu lionfish? Would this be a good choice? Any info is greatly appreciated. Thanks gang!

 

[Shaddow_wolf169]

Dwarf or fu will be okay as long as you feed both regularly

 

[Shaddow_wolf169]

That's a lot of waste they produce.

 

[welsher7]

You should have no problem with the fu and snowflake, but the snowflake eel will out grow a 65g, and are known fish eaters.

 

[Scott Peters Sr]

Dwarf or fu will be okay as long as you feed both regularly

Ok thanks! Daily? Or every other day?

 

[Scott Peters Sr]

You should have no problem with the fu and snowflake, but the snowflake eel will out grow a 65g, and are known fish eaters.

Ok thank you kindly.

 

[Scott Peters Sr]

You should have no problem with the fu and snowflake, but the snowflake eel will out grow a 65g, and are known fish eaters.

Any other ideas for awesome predatory fish instead of the eel?

 

[welsher7]

Rule of thumb with feeding eels is if it is swimming around or active than feed it. They generally won't be very active unless they are hungry.

Feeding the lion will depend on the size it is when you get it. Smaller lions should be fed more often, usually once a day, than larger ones. Larger lions can go days with out eating. Also Fu manchus are notoriously hard to get feeding. if you don't have prior experience weaning fish off live foods I would suggest looking at fuzzy that is feeding on frozen at the LFS.

I used to feed my 10" russlles lion and my 36" zebra eel about once every 10 days or so.

 

[melypr1985]

Any other ideas for awesome predatory fish instead of the eel?

There are some very cool anglers that are fairly small and really neat that would probably work.

 

[Scott Peters Sr]

Rule of thumb with feeding eels is if it is swimming around or active than feed it. They generally won't be very active unless they are hungry.

Feeding the lion will depend on the size it is when you get it. Smaller lions should be fed more often, usually once a day, than larger ones. Larger lions can go days with out eating. Also Fu manchus are notoriously hard to get feeding. if you don't have prior experience weaning fish off live foods I would suggest looking at fuzzy that is feeding on frozen at the LFS.

I used to feed my 10" russlles lion and my 36" zebra eel about once every 10 days or so.

Perfect! Thank you!

 

[Scott Peters Sr]

There are some very cool anglers that are fairly small and really neat that would probably work.

Hmmm, I will check them out. Thank you!

 

[welsher7]

maybe checkout
some of the hamlets(indigo hamlet comes to mind) or an arc eye hawkfish they are like smaller groupers. I think they stay around the 5-6" range
Canthigaster sp. puffers (but not in the same tank as a lion) 4-5" range
maybe a damsel or two
not aggressive but maybe a small tomini or kole tang

 

[Scott Peters Sr]

maybe checkout
some of the hamlets(indigo hamlet comes to mind) or an arc eye hawkfish they are like smaller groupers. I think they stay around the 5-6" range
Canthigaster sp. puffers (but not in the same tank as a lion) 4-5" range
maybe a damsel or two
not aggressive but maybe a small tomini or kole tang

Ok thank you Sir.

 

[Scott Peters Sr]

That's a lot of waste they produce.

I heard that. Do you recommend the snowflake? Will it be too much waste?

 

[welsher7]

Are you planning a reef tank or fowlr?

 

[Scott Peters Sr]

Coral reef is already established and thriving.

 

[welsher7]

I would think twice about adding an eel to a reef, they could be pretty destructive. Also the flow in a reef could be a problem for a lion. Both will produce spikes in water chemistry because of the high protein feedings, so your filtration would have to upsized.... IMO

Do you have any other fish in the tank already?

 

[Scott Peters Sr]

Hmmmm. Never gave this a thought. No fish in there yet.

 

[lion king]

I agree with welsher about thinking twice on adding an eel to a reef, they can be destructive and are messy eaters which will add to the bioload. You can manage the bioload whether it be with skimming, dosing, algae scrubber or reactor and water chages. A 65 is an adequate tank for a snowflake, but they can be one of the most active eels. Their activity will be rough on corals.

Dwarf lions are good choices for a reef, I personally feed my lions live food. You could have a fu and a fuzzy in a 65, as long as you understand their feeding requirements you'll be fine. Weaning to dead food isn't 100% guaranteed. As far as flow goes, my lions are in a reef and they are happy. They do like caves and perches to hang. I have 5 tanks and my lion reef is my favorite.

 

[Scott Peters Sr]

I agree with welsher about thinking twice on adding an eel to a reef, they can be destructive and are messy eaters which will add to the bioload. You can manage the bioload whether it be with skimming, dosing, algae scrubber or reactor and water chages. A 65 is an adequate tank for a snowflake, but they can be one of the most active eels. Their activity will be rough on corals.

Dwarf lions are good choices for a reef, I personally feed my lions live food. You could have a fu and a fuzzy in a 65, as long as you understand their feeding requirements you'll be fine. Weaning to dead food isn't 100% guaranteed. As far as flow goes, my lions are in a reef and they are happy. They do like caves and perches to hang. I have 5 tanks and my lion reef is my favorite.

Thank you so much for the info. Maybe it would be wise to just go with 2 lions for now. I do have a media reactor but I am worried about the eels increased waste. Thank you!