Garage setup?

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So thinking about larger salt water setups for fragging. However no room in the house so considering the garage. Need some feedback from people with garage tank setups. In the summer it's in the 90s here and winters get down to the teens.


Would you have to heat and cool the entire garage or just run heaters and chillers on the tank? Also humidifier for water evaporation? How about fumes from the car coming in and out occasionally?

Anything else I'm not thinking of?
 
Please by all means, my garage is a two stall, my side I would use for the frag tanks, my wife's side she wants to keep for the van and kids.
 
Actually I know a guy that I believe he has his setup in his garage well at least he did have it in there he is the owner of reef kio. IL ask him
 
You would want to heat and cool the garage and make sure it insulated. Opening the garage everytime when coming and going in the heat or cold of the day will be difficult considering the amount of air exchange everytime the garage door is opened and closed.
 
Opening the garage daily will be inevitable. So having central heat and air would mitigate that issue you think? How about fumes from a car pulling in or out each day?
 
In the teens in the winter I would think opening the garage door would be an issue. Opening such a large door in a small space, it will take time to heat and cool it everything and that's in a well insulated garage. The scary thought is if that door is ever kept open on accident. Unlike a door to your home, a garage door will allow the air to recycle in a garage within seconds. Of course all of this is possible but a lot of obstacles to overcome when using the garage as a garage when a reef needs such stability to thrive. As you mentioned, fumes might be an issue as well.
 
I would suggest putting up walls and a door (regular door not roll up) in the stall of the garage and also running central air and heating. I would also suggest an air exchanger or vent to remove some of the humidity build up (a bathroom fan that has a humidity sensor would also work (costco ~$100)). HD and Lowes carries a fiberglass wall covering that works great in these type of builds when they are enclosed...a bit more expensive than drywall, but is waterproof I would cover all the walls and ceiling with it (did it before...a bit of a pain to work with since it is so flexible but really worth it IMO).

I would suggest a heater (multiple) and a chiller just in case as you don't want to loose anything due to temps outside your control.
 
I'm thinking opening the garage door and the cold wouldn't hit the tank that bad though. If you have multiple heaters on an apex it should easily keep it warm enough. Dropping a couple degrees shouldn't be major I wouldn't think considering the shipping conditions that coral goes through?
 
I think you are forgetting they are in an insulated box inside of a cardboard box (double insulation) with heat packs....and the volume of water is significantly smaller this easier to heat/keep warm. The boxes are also stored at ~70 degrees when in a warehouse or plane so not always in the elements of the truck. The corals also only go through the fluctuation for up to 40 hours or so...not for 6 months.
A glass or acrylic tank is not a good insulator and with all the open water surfaces the heat escapes quickly. Opening the garage door in the winter basically exchanges all the air in the garage in 2-3 minutes with cold air since warm air can rise higher outside. Remember that temp changes (and acidification of course) are causing wild coral reefs to decline and stability is key...I wouldn't chance it IMO.
Also, I doubt carbon monoxide, etc. from the car would be good for the tank either, again, open surfaces allow a great area for a quick diffusion point of impurities into the tank. Think about how many tank crashes happen due to household cleaners being used too close to tanks, again, not worth the risk IMO.
I also doubt that multiple heaters would actually keep the tank warm...if the garage is like mine, which is insulated with a really good insulated door brick exterior and attached to the house, pop and water sometimes freezes in the winter....tanks are usually in a 65-75 degree house, so the heaters are meant to keep temps on a tank inside (within 10 degrees or so) not outside temps.
But ultimately it is your decision of course...just my 2 cents from my experiences and others I know....I am not an expert on this at all. Most people that do this (that I know) have their entire garage dedicated to their tank(s), not a portion.
 
I have it in the garage.
Built a double insulated wall and ceiling, with a AC as most days in TX are a killing.
For the winter I have a Oil filled electrical heater and my frags are loving it.
The room is 15'x11'
I have my QT system set up in there and all I need to frag corals.

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I have a pretty big system in my garage. 250g display, 60g frag tank, 100g sump.

It's been running for about 6 years. I have a big chiller for summer and several heaters for the winter.

Humidity is high in the garage. Things rust quicker in the garage. And in the winter condensate builds up on the garage door.

I'm currently looking into dehumidification solutions because I'm inheriting some nice tools and do not want them to get messed up.

Right now I'm thinking of going with a 12,000 btu window A/C for warm months and commercial dehumidifier for cooler months.

https://www.reef2reef.com/index.php?threads/WesF's-In-Wall-250g-DD.42803/
 
I'm thinking of using a ductless split unit in mine so humidity hopefully won't be a problem but worst case winter time I can run a dehumidifier.
 
I didn't have time to read all of the posts but will add a few.

You will need to insulate and have the garage temperature controlled.

Just remember, heat = bacteria.
 
I was thinking of going with a split system but now I'm thinking of just installing a sleeve to mount a window unit.

Here is my reasoning. I had a friend who is an HVAC technician run my dimensions in his software and 12,000btu is plenty big.

That moist, salty air can be hard on the A/C. Replacing a window unit costs about $350. Replacing a split system will cost $1500 plus $1-2k for installation since you need a licensed HVAC technician to charge the refrigerant lines.

Mini splits are more energy efficient but you may never see the ROI when conditioning a fish room.
 
Yeah I am planning to condition the entire garage and only use one side for the frag tanks.

How would salty air cause issues since salt water doesn't evaporate, just freshwater?
 
I didn't have time to read all of the posts but will add a few.

You will need to insulate and have the garage temperature controlled.

Just remember, heat = bacteria.

You don't need to temp control the garage but insulation helps. Heating/cooling the tank alone could actually cost less than heating/cooling the entire garage.

Humidity can become a problem if you have a lot of water like in my case.
 

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