GHL On Sale - BRS

[FishyFishFish]

Regardless of the law, they may just cancel the orders and refund. That does not mean it's lawful... And most of you won't care.. For the amount at issue of a few GHL parts--a decent lawyer could get them to uphold the deal if the law is arguable here ( i don't know, i just quoted the first things that came up on a westlaw terms and connector search--and that is all good law according to westlaw) because them reaching out to a lawyer is expensive.

Show a specific example in the cases you quoted where someone posted an advertised price, and the seller was legally obliged to sell it at that price.

Cite it.

I know Google isn't the legal panacea, but if you search 'does a store have to honor an advertised price' and you will see the overwhelming answer.

The only way you would be able to fight this is if you claimed false advertising, which is an intent to deceive. Nobody would be able to prove that because it didn't happen.

 

[ReefCheef]

If anyone got extra dosers and wants to sell. I'll buy one! Please give fair price

 

[Kershaw]

deltes

 

[workhz]

Only thing missing here is for the thread to get an ‘emergency’ tag.

 

[jhuntstl]

I didn't read the whole thread.

If I had to guess, BRS will go through with the sales and use this as good publicity. It may have even been planned. I saw this thread earlier today and actually...from what I've skimmed, I unfortunately can believe what it's turned into.

To those who were lucky enough to order, don't let anyone bring you down for it.

 

[Mywifeisgunnakillme]

Show a specific example in the cases you quoted where someone posted an advertised price, and the seller was legally obliged to sell it at that price.



I know Google isn't the legal panacea, but if you search 'does a store have to honor an advertised price' and you will see the overwhelming answer.

The only way you would be able to fight this is if you claimed false advertising, which is an intent to deceive. Nobody would be able to prove that because it didn't happen.

i do not think you have any idea what you're talk about until you cite some authority other than you.

These are arm's length transactions and contract law is what it is; people can rely on prices advertised on the internet, and offer, acceptance, and consideration is universal to all contract law no matter how big or small the suit.

"False advertising" is not legal thing; it's common vernacular, i do not know where from, unrelated to the law.

I am appellate attorney-- and i pay a few hundred dollars a month for westlaw (i am not using "google):

I regularly handle contract cases, just not for the sale of goods. This is a situation i have not dealt with because i don't do nickle and dime cases like this and i am not some corporate attorney that write boilerplate contracts.

The law may be that BRS can rescind the contract and sale (maybe because the offeree accepted the terms on the website by paying) but it does not appear that way to me after a few minutes of looking into it on west law--and i am quite good at this.

Also, they may just refund money anyway, but that does not make it lawful.

This is a curiosity to me....

I doubt this will happen again, no matter what, LOL.

 

[JNalley]

I doubt this will happen again, no matter what, LOL.

Well, if some of the louder voices in this thread are to be believed, it HAS happened before on BRS's website, with other products/automated sales events... I've never seen it personally though. But there has to be something negligent about not fixing a broken system if it has indeed happened multiple times, lol.

 

[Mywifeisgunnakillme]

Well, if some of the louder voices in this thread are to be believed, it HAS happened before on BRS's website, with other products/automated sales events... I've never seen it personally though. But there has to be something negligent about not fixing a broken system if it has indeed happened multiple times, lol.

It may be that they can refund the money. But, again, i am not sure it's lawful. The minnesota supreme court case i cited stands for an argument they cannot for sure.

It would take more time than i have for me to look into this more. At this point, i just want to see what happens! lol.

 

[Not an IT guy]

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[FishyFishFish]

In response to Mywifeisgunnakillme. I didn't add the quote and now my post is out of sequence.



Ok, but I still disagree.

Even the case you posted doesn't back up your argument. It talks about a clear, definite, explicit offer of sale. i.e. The advertisement you referenced stated that 'if you are first to buy it then you can have it for $1'. The person was the first to arrive at the store and the offer was refused; that is why he won the case and not because of the advertised price.

The price on the BRS website was just a price - it didn't say 'we guarantee this price' so therefore it isn't a clear, definite, explicit offer of sale; it is just an invitation to contract. In fact, their terms and conditions specifically account for this but, even if it didn't, they wouldn't have to honor the price.

Well, if some of the louder voices in this thread are to be believed, it HAS happened before on BRS's website, with other products/automated sales events... I've never seen it personally though. But there has to be something negligent about not fixing a broken system if it has indeed happened multiple times, lol.

There is still at least one pricing error on the site. I'm not sure I would pay $54.95 for a packet of Hanna Nitrate reagents. The times I have seen this before is when they are updating the site. I have seen prices yo-yo up and down several times over a period of 15 minutes or so and if you get in quickly then you can get it in your cart and pay for it. They definitely need to have a word with their IT guy.

 

[t5Nitro]

This thread has hit 13 pages in length? Those who are wishing brs cancels orders bring the S.G. of the thread to 1.030.

 

[JNalley]

It may be that they can refund the money. But, again, i am not sure it's lawful. The minnesota supreme court case i cited stands for an argument they cannot for sure.

It would take more time than i have for me to look into this more. At this point, i just want to see what happens! lol.

Oh for sure, I'm either going to be only slightly disappointed I couldn't pull one over on the evil greedy corporate overlords (sarcasm), or I'm gonna be ridiculously happy that 2022 started off so good. Either way, it won't prevent me from enjoying this hobby.

 

[JoshH]

"False advertising" is not legal thing; it's common vernacular, i do not know where from, unrelated to the law.

False Advertising is a claim made and dealt with through the Federal Trade Commission. A company can be fined for false advertising so it must be written in law somewhere. The brief info I got was right of the FTC's website...

BTW I am no fancy lawyer either, but the topic I do find interesting overall and it's always good to brush up on how to protect yourself when making purchases in person or online. As long as everyone is friendly about it, maybe we can all learn something here.

 

[JNalley]

There is still at least one pricing error on the site. I'm not sure I would pay $54.95 for a packet of Hanna Nitrate reagents. The times I have seen this before is when they are updating the site. I have seen prices yo-yo up and down several times over a period of 15 minutes or so and if you get in quickly then you can get it in your cart and pay for it. They definitely need to have a word with their IT guy.

The Hanna reagent is likely priced that high due to supply and demand. There have been loads of reports of those reagents not being in stock anywhere.

 

[Acros]

These sales most likely constitute a minuscule amount of BRS weekly sales. I don’t think the money would be a big concern to BRS. How would GHL respond to it if these items are MAP pricing? No idea!

 

[Mywifeisgunnakillme]

In response to Mywifeisgunnakillme. I didn't add the quote and now my post is out of sequence.



Ok, but I still disagree.

Even the case you posted doesn't back up your argument. It talks about a clear, definite, explicit offer of sale. i.e. The advertisement you referenced stated that 'if you are first to buy it then you can have it for $1'. The person was the first to arrive at the store and the offer was refused; that is why he won the case and not because of the advertised price.

The price on the BRS website was just a price - it didn't say 'we guarantee this price' so therefore it isn't a clear, definite, explicit offer of sale; it is just an invitation to contract. In fact, their terms and conditions specifically account for this but, even if it didn't, they wouldn't have to honor the price.




There is still at least one pricing error on the site. I'm not sure I would pay $54.95 for a packet of Hanna Nitrate reagents. The times I have seen this before is when they are updating the site. I have seen prices yo-yo up and down several times over a period of 15 minutes or so and if you get in quickly then you can get it in your cart and pay for it. They definitely need to have a word with their IT guy.

That's terrible legal analysis and utter non-sense, like i see in court when people don't pay an attorney and lose.

 

[JNalley]

These sales most likely constitute a minuscule amount of BRS weekly sales. I don’t think the money would be a big concern to BRS. How would GHL respond to it if these items are MAP pricing? No idea!

MAP pricing is something BRS uses as a shield. Every other retail outlet that deals with MAP (Minimum ADVERTISED Price) simply skirts the issue by saying "See price in cart". BRS uses it as a shield to say "We can't discount this or sell for that" which is totally an untrue statement.

 

[Acros]

Well, if some of the louder voices in this thread are to be believed, it HAS happened before on BRS's website, with other products/automated sales events... I've never seen it personally though. But there has to be something negligent about not fixing a broken system if it has indeed happened multiple times, lol.

Something like this happened earlier this month on a Cherry Coral live sale. They went through with it and let people purchase the frags.

I believe the money we are talking about here is peanuts to BRS.

 

[Mywifeisgunnakillme]

False Advertising is a claim made and dealt with through the Federal Trade Commission. A company can be fined for false advertising so it must be written in law somewhere. The brief info I got was right of the FTC's website...

BTW I am no fancy lawyer either, but the topic I do find interesting overall and it's always good to brush up on how to protect yourself when making purchases in person or online. As long as everyone is friendly about it, maybe we can all learn something here.

I don't know why you are posting this. This is a government bureaucrat writing in layman terms about consumer protection regulations, nothing to do with this situation at all. Unless you think BRS needs protection from reefers?? LOL, probably actually.

 

[FishyFishFish]

The Hanna reagent is likely priced that high due to supply and demand. There have been loads of reports of those reagents not being in stock anywhere.

Price gouging? Let's not go down that route It's a mistake (and they are in stock in their hundreds at SA).

That's terrible legal analysis and utter non-sense, like i see in court when people don't pay an attorney and lose.

Fair enough; what is nonsense about what I said?

You won't change my mind but I am interested in how you think your quotes relate to prices listed on websites.