Red2143
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Been dealing with dinos without much success. I'm thinking of removing the sand and going sandless. Are there special considerations to keep in mind? Does the reflection off the bottom scare fish?
Going sandless
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I agree with @Vested
I run barebottom tanks and have never had a problem whether starting barebottom or removing sand from a running tank. Maybe some bio filter will be lost removing from an existing system? I'm not knowledgeable enough to say yes or no but removing sand has not caused any issues when I have done it.
I run barebottom tanks and have never had a problem whether starting barebottom or removing sand from a running tank. Maybe some bio filter will be lost removing from an existing system? I'm not knowledgeable enough to say yes or no but removing sand has not caused any issues when I have done it.
SPS2020
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I'm all for bare bottoms and have had them for a very long time. As mentioned above, you may lose some biodiversity after removing the sand. Have you checked your PO4 level to be sure you haven't bottomed out?
Northern Flicker
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Do you guys lay down eggcratr under your rock work?
I wanted to go bare but the rock being directly on the glass always freaks me out.
Uncle99
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Just because you remove the sand, that’s not going to fix Dino’s, rather, it may make it worse as sand provides a ton of surface area for our processors. All hard surfaces (rockwork) are home to Dino’s.
If you just want to have a bare bottom tank, then fine, but keep in mind this change will destabilize your system and pest type stuff loves that.
What have you been doing to combat Dino’s?
What are your nutrients levels and how stable are they?
How stable is your overall water chemistry?
X-37B
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You could try this. I run it in my 20 nano and my 80 growout.
I get flow up underneath and through the entire scape. Very little accumulates on the bottom.
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i had 2 bb tanks; one with black abs sheet on the bottom, and one without. Besides preventing scratches on the glass bottom, the abs provides easy, semi-rough surface for the corals to hold onto and spread. And imo, it looks much better than the reflective (glass) bottom.
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Ive done bare bottom more than once. Its sorta weird scraping algae off bottom glass but no issues other than appearance minus sand bottom and no reflection due to light film of algae and sediment on bottom
you have a safety factor in how to remove without crashing your entire tank you need to consider. the masses will tell you to vacuum it out if you remove it, or to remove it in sections with the tank full and running because it worked for a couple people
I would advise not listening to the masses on sand extraction because on page one of the sand rinse thread/50 pages of sand removal jobs with no kills/ we remove sand 100% opposite from how the masses advise and on page one for counter reading I linked several instances where messing with the sand in a full tank killed all their fish.
that's an exceptionally nice reef above. I guarantee you I'd surgically remove that sand as we've done for eight years straight, follow the protocols in place to keep that system 100% safe afterwards. any variation from the known safe order of ops can kill that tank/what I've listed on page one such as this:
www.reef2reef.com
if you will run your sand extraction like we do, surgical disassembly of your tank then put back together without sand, you'll have the only safe known sand extraction method handling those $ you have in there. I would love to run that job remotely then put the work example on page 51. we have a way to do it without any systemic interruption.
I would advise not listening to the masses on sand extraction because on page one of the sand rinse thread/50 pages of sand removal jobs with no kills/ we remove sand 100% opposite from how the masses advise and on page one for counter reading I linked several instances where messing with the sand in a full tank killed all their fish.
that's an exceptionally nice reef above. I guarantee you I'd surgically remove that sand as we've done for eight years straight, follow the protocols in place to keep that system 100% safe afterwards. any variation from the known safe order of ops can kill that tank/what I've listed on page one such as this:
Sand Bed
I have a stable, successful (by my standards) tank for many years. I has a dsb which may or may not be relevant to that. Seems like all I read about DSB is anecdotal. So, I will add to it. I had to excavate a small section of my sand bed for a plumbing issue. With in 12 hours, both my tangs...
www.reef2reef.com
if you will run your sand extraction like we do, surgical disassembly of your tank then put back together without sand, you'll have the only safe known sand extraction method handling those $ you have in there. I would love to run that job remotely then put the work example on page 51. we have a way to do it without any systemic interruption.
