Definitely going to try everything I can before I dump gas in it lolIve not dealt with them personally but one of the big things with lights out is complete darkness. even light in the room can be enough to make it ineffective. lights out and cover the tank prevent all light. at the same time id start vodka carbon dosing . this meathod has some controversy in regards to negative effects of having extreme phosphate and nitrate reduction but in conjunction with pitch black periods you should see improvement. here is a link covering carbon dosing with vodka http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-08/nftt/


