Heart Broken

[RamsReef]

Looks like brook today :/ but wrasse didn't look slimy.

Man this us terrible.

 

[shred5]

Man that is sad and really sorry...

Anyway that is allot of fish to have quarantined together.
I know ammonia has been mentioned.
I like to separate my fish into separate tanks as much as possible.
This way if one fish is sick it does not infect the rest. Sometimes things are just hard to stop or become resistant.

 

[RamsReef]

Ammonia was fine, It was either bad cp or I had to much media and absorbed it.

Things went really bad when I pu in Uv and carbon to pull the prazi out, which is what I thought the problem was.

Lesson learned, bare qt tank cp, qt tank with media will be copper and hanna checker.

 

[RamsReef]

Was just excited to stock my DT. Trying to batch out a round of fish.

 

[Ferrell]

We’ve all been there. Sorry you took such a hit. It’s heartbreaking for sure.
This R2R group, and specifically @HotRocks @Humblefish @4FordFamily, set me straight on qt back in the fall, gave me some sound advice and direction and I finally got fish to the DT. I too had a cycled tank and went to bare bones and sterilization between shifts of fish. Now I keep a sponge filter in my display sump so I’ll be full of good bacteria for the next batch. You will get there in time just be patient.

 

[MnFish1]

Skimmer normally and overflow, tank was a 40 gal all in one deal, after the first loss I put in 2 airstones.

The skimmer will remove the Chloroquine (edited) (won't it?) - meaning perhaps the medication level in your QT tank was not high enough? It sounds like ammonia or velvet/etc

EDIT - I meant Chloroquine (CP)

 

[MnFish1]

Ammonia was fine, It was either bad cp or I had to much media and absorbed it.

Things went really bad when I pu in Uv and carbon to pull the prazi out, which is what I thought the problem was.

Lesson learned, bare qt tank cp, qt tank with media will be copper and hanna checker.

Sounds like - perhaps - there was enough (Chloroquine - edited) in the tank to keep things partially in check (i.e. the fish looked sick but most were ok) - when you put in the carbon etc - you removed the rest of the (chloroquine - edited) . But there is really no way to tell.

EDIT - I meant Chloroquine.

 

[RamsReef]

Nah, it looks like brook to me. So the CP would do nothing. My diagnosis was wrong, I was treating for flukes, and then velvet, which will not help Brook. If I had dosed metro I might have been ok.

I only did one round of General Cure and was waiting for another shipment from the states(Canada Banned it), for worms, not brook. Then I thought it was just flukes so I put more prazi in, no metro.

Also the skimmer takes stuff out if you let it skim, I was running it for aeration, ie. no cup

 

[RamsReef]

We’ve all been there. Sorry you took such a hit. It’s heartbreaking for sure.
This R2R group, and specifically @HotRocks @Humblefish @4FordFamily, set me straight on qt back in the fall, gave me some sound advice and direction and I finally got fish to the DT. I too had a cycled tank and went to bare bones and sterilization between shifts of fish. Now I keep a sponge filter in my display sump so I’ll be full of good bacteria for the next batch. You will get there in time just be patient.

Oh yeah I know, just one of those things like, I want to put wrasse in tank, so lets get the wrasses into QT
Oh another LFS has my PBT that I've wanted ok lets get that.
Oh 2 more tailspots would be good and 2 yellow gobies.
Oh tank shutdown with a bunch of coral? Oh Eng Goby left in tank no one wanted? I'll QT it too.

Man should have just done 3 batches.

Icarus reached for the sun, got my wings melted.

 

[RamsReef]

Right now I'm just worried that my oberservation tank (where the first deaths happend) are to close to my coral QT tank, which could have infected my main tank.

I don't keep as tight qt on coral qt to main DT as I do fish QT.

Garage has fish QT

Living room has fish observation (No Longer) and coral QT

Other side of living room (20 feet) has DT's

Being brook will be a double edged sword here. While it will be easier to treat, it can also stay in the tank and not cause any issues (according to @Humblefish Brook Post)

 

[dwest]

40 gal, Some biosporia and sponges, always cycled.

I think ill have to switch to copper and hanna if I want to keep the media, no way to test cp levels.

I hope this is the end of my expensive lesson.

That and Im never qting that many expensive fish at once.

I switched to copper power and Hanna because of the measurement problem with cp also. Sorry.

 

[RamsReef]

I didn't want to do copper because I was some what afraid to do it, and I had CP on hand.

 

[RamsReef]

Flasher wrasses don’t do well in CP Fairy wrasses are fine, but I have a feeling that’s why the two flashers were struggling initially.

When you removed the CP, it’s possible if there is velvet... it got it’s foothold on the remaining fish.

Only one flasher wasn't doing good, the other one was awesome. I'll do copper next time.

 

[MnFish1]

Nah, it looks like brook to me. So the CP would do nothing. My diagnosis was wrong, I was treating for flukes, and then velvet, which will not help Brook. If I had dosed metro I might have been ok.

I only did one round of General Cure and was waiting for another shipment from the states(Canada Banned it), for worms, not brook. Then I thought it was just flukes so I put more prazi in, no metro.

Also the skimmer takes stuff out if you let it skim, I was running it for aeration, ie. no cup

Chloroquine treats brookynella. Secondly I didn’t see where you said you were using the skinner for aeriation sorry

 

[RamsReef]

Chloroquine treats brookynella. Secondly I didn’t see where you said you were using the skinner for aeriation sorry

No worries, I didn't expressly say it so I don't blame you.

Good to know about Chloroquine, must have absorbed it or it was expired.

 

[Undertaker]

dang that’s horrible [emoji17]I have never had any luck with quarantining fish. It has always seemed to stress them out more. So I don’t use that method. I buy my fish from one guy that I trust and just put them in

 

[jsvand5]

Sucks to hear about all of those loses. One of the best lessons I have learned over the years is to only QT 2 fish at a time in the same tank unless they are a shoaling fish. The more fish you add in QT the higher the chances of introducing something that you aren’t ready for or can’t cure.

 

[RamsReef]

Sucks to hear about all of those loses. One of the best lessons I have learned over the years is to only QT 2 fish at a time in the same tank unless they are a shoaling fish. The more fish you add in QT the higher the chances of introducing something that you aren’t ready for or can’t cure.

Oh yeah, what the brain knows and what it tricks itself into are two different things though

 

[jsvand5]

Oh yeah, what the brain knows and what it tricks itself into are two different things though

Definitely true. Tough to pass on a fish you’ve been looking for when they pop up.

 

[RamsReef]

Definitely true. Tough to pass on a fish you’ve been looking for when they pop up.

The struggle is real. Esp when you haven't started the QT cycle.