Heater malfunction

[sharkyahd]

If no corals I would keep the light off for a while and let everyone literally chill out. I see an ink bird in your future. Good luck! Were sending thoughts for you guys

 

[sharkyahd]

Sorry I accidentally reposted multiple messages, will the fish be more susceptible to disease now?

Honestly, it may, it may not, it’s hard to say. Usually when you hear about a heater emergency like this… the fish are all belly up.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Sorry I accidentally reposted multiple messages, will the fish be more susceptible to disease now?

Allow it to gradually fall. Oxygen is reduced as tank gets that warm but will increase as temp drops.
You can run a household fan towards the tank and open cabinet door for total circulation

 

[Elrond]

If no corals I would keep the light off for a while and let everyone literally chill out. I see an ink bird in your future. Good luck! Were sending thoughts for you

If no corals I would keep the light off for a while and let everyone literally chill out. I see an ink bird in your future. Good luck! Were sending thoughts for you guys

Ink bird? The clowns are still swimming pretty vigorously into the flow from the power head they seem fine for now, it's super frustrating I believe what happened is my daughter turned up the heater

 

[sharkyahd]

Yup the InkBird has been something someone told me to get awhile ago, the probes automatically shut the heaters off after a certain temp. Prevents future problems. Let’s say your daughter turns it up to 90 again on the heater itself. Once the temp probe senses it’s above let’s say 79 it’ll cut the power from the heater regardless of what the heater is set to. She probably just wanted them to be warm too

 

[Elrond]

Allow it to gradually fall. Oxygen is reduced as tank gets that warm but will increase as temp drops.
You can run a household fan towards the tank and open cabinet door for total circulation

I have a new fish a Picasso trigger coming in the mail in 24 hours, I know I should have had a quarantine tank set up but I hadn't yet because It was only him and the clowns in there and I was reading conflicting things about stress from quarantine and if it was a reputable seller I was buying from that it would be better to just put it straight in the display tank ECT, at this point what's your opinion about how likely it is I'm going to be dealing with disease now

 

[Elrond]

Yup the InkBird has been something someone told me to get awhile ago, the probes automatically shut the heaters off after a certain temp. Prevents future problems. Let’s say your daughter turns it up to 90 again on the heater itself. Once the temp probe senses it’s above let’s say 79 it’ll cut the power from the heater regardless of what the heater is set to. She probably just wanted them to be warm too

I will look into that

 

[sharkyahd]

I have a new fish a Picasso trigger coming in the mail in 24 hours, I know I should have had a quarantine tank set up but I hadn't yet because It was only him and the clowns in there and I was reading conflicting things about stress from quarantine and if it was a reputable seller I was buying from that it would be better to just put it straight in the display tank ECT, at this point what's your opinion about how likely it is I'm going to be dealing with disease now

Oof, I honestly don’t know, I’m a coral guy, rarely deal with fish but we can use the bat signal and tag the @ReefSquad and I’m sure they can help. #reefsquad

 

[vetteguy53081]

I have a new fish a Picasso trigger coming in the mail in 24 hours, I know I should have had a quarantine tank set up but I hadn't yet because It was only him and the clowns in there and I was reading conflicting things about stress from quarantine and if it was a reputable seller I was buying from that it would be better to just put it straight in the display tank ECT, at this point what's your opinion about how likely it is I'm going to be dealing with disease now

If you run fan now, you should easily be at 80 or under in the morning. Right now if you take zip lock bags and fill with water, place in freezer and in morning they will be ice packs. Place a couple in the sump until they melt. when they melt take two more and place in sump and ones that melted back in the freezer. You will get through this before fish arrival.

New fish:
Float for 20-30 minutes
Transfer fish and water into a clean bucket
Then . . . .
Measure the Ph, salinity and temperature of the bag water. If you can, make up some water in a container that has exactly the same measurements as the bag readings and move the fish right over, then you can add a cup of tank water to bucket every 15 mins 6 times (almost 1.5 hours)
Then check salinity in bucket and compare to tank. If no match or very close, add a cup of water every few mins until youve reached salinity and trap fish in same cup and pour off water and release into display. Release under LOW light before lights out. Fish in shipped bags produce carbon dioxide and ammonia.

 

[Elrond]

If you run fan now, you should easily be at 80 or under in the morning. Right now if you take zip lock bags and fill with water, place in freezer and in morning they will be ice packs. Place a couple in the sump until they melt. when they melt take two more and place in sump and ones that melted back in the freezer. You will get through this before fish arrival.

New fish:
Float for 20-30 minutes
Transfer fish and water into a clean bucket
Then . . . .
Measure the Ph, salinity and temperature of the bag water. If you can, make up some water in a container that has exactly the same measurements as the bag readings and move the fish right over, then you can add a cup of tank water to bucket every 15 mins 6 times (almost 1.5 hours)
Then check salinity in bucket and compare to tank. If no match or very close, add a cup of water every few mins until youve reached salinity and trap fish in same cup and pour off water and release into display. Release under LOW light before lights out. Fish in shipped bags produce carbon dioxide and ammonia.

Thank you, I will try it. So the high temp shouldnt have hurt the live rocks and bacteria you guys don't think?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Thank you, I will try it. So the high temp shouldnt have hurt the live rocks and bacteria you guys don't think?

It will have an impact but not kill it. You can however for next 10-14 days add 1.5ml of liquid bacteria such as Micro Bacter 7 per 10 gallons to tank daily

 

[Elrond]

It will have an impact but not kill it. You can however for next 10-14 days add 1.5ml of liquid bacteria such as Micro Bacter 7 per 10 gallons to tank daily

I will see what they have at Petco for bacteria, I wish I would have saved some of the Dr Tim's I had more than I needed but used it all during tank setup

 

[wil-yuhm]

Next morning when the temperatures are below desirable... .

 

[KrisReef]

I have a new fish a Picasso trigger coming in the mail in 24 hours, I know I should have had a quarantine tank set up but I hadn't yet because It was only him and the clowns in there and I was reading conflicting things about stress from quarantine and if it was a reputable seller I was buying from that it would be better to just put it straight in the display tank ECT, at this point what's your opinion about how likely it is I'm going to be dealing with disease now

This kind of thinking is a distraction. Stick with one (current) disaster, the one that is in front of you. WHat if the fish gets lost in the mail and it never arrives? Cool down the fish, get one of the frozen juice cans and mix up a gin and juice, relax and pray the clowns are ok. Not much else to do, but that is enough.

 

[wil-yuhm]

This kind of thinking is a distraction. Stick with one (current) disaster, the one that is in front of you. WHat if the fish gets lost in the mail and it never arrives? Cool down the fish, get one of the frozen juice cans and mix up a gin and juice, relax and pray the clowns are ok. Not much else to do, but that is enough.

Could always x-vil (arguably higher evolved) fish in the meantime.
The cold blooded fish might be more difficult to catch at 90 degrees.

 

[Tuffyyyyy]

I will see what they have at Petco for bacteria, I wish I would have saved some of the Dr Tim's I had more than I needed but used it all during tank setup

IIRC they have BioSpira & Fluval, both of which are decent. I can't stress this enough - you need to get something to control the heater separately of its internal control. Sounds like the only thing you really have in there is clownfish, so slowly lowering the temperature should be fine.

 

[dedragon]

Yup, it is inkbird time. I would buy 1 inkbird and 2 new heaters (i like eheim jager but there are a lot of options)
A lot of people dont realize how necesary a temperature controller is until it is too late, hopefully you caught it fast. I like to run the one with two heater plugs so you can run two heaters with the temp controller. This way when one fails (not if but when) the other one will still be able to turn on.

 

[dedragon]

I see an ink bird in your future.

yes!

 

[Elrond]

IIRC they have BioSpira & Fluval, both of which are decent. I can't stress this enough - you need to get something to control the heater separately of its internal control. Sounds like the only thing you really have in there is clownfish, so slowly lowering the temperature should be fine.

Thanks guys I very much appreciate all your help, I will find something to control the heater

 

[Elrond]

It will have an impact but not kill it. You can however for next 10-14 days add 1.5ml of liquid bacteria such as Micro Bacter 7 per 10 gallons to tank daily

Well they made it through the night, tank is back to 80 degrees they seem normal I will leave the light off for today