Heavy breathing or normal?

[machadolucasvp]

I recently bought my first fish, a lyretail anthia. Has been 2 days that he is with me. I'm not sure if he is with heavy breathing or if it's normal. He is eating and behaving fine. Ammonia and nitrite are both 0. I'm afraid of ick or brok, it follows the video

It's normal?

 

[Sharkbait19]

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[SlugSnorter]

no video attached, what is salinity and temp?

 

[machadolucasvp]

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[machadolucasvp]

Salinity 1026 and temperature 76

 

[Sharkbait19]

Two days might just still be stress from the move. Breathing rate does look elevated but I also don’t know much about anthias specifically.
Was it qt’ed before hand? Any white patchy marks or white spots? The #1 thing to look out for on anthias is uronema, which unfortunately has no cure.

 

[machadolucasvp]

Was not QT'ed. I don't have a QT tank yet. No white spots at least that I can see with the naked eye. I thought as well about being due to the move but it's weird because I have the impression that the first day was not so accelerated. On the first day, he didn't eat and now is eating like a monster, and also behaving well. Is possible to be ick or brok?

 

[Sharkbait19]

Ich is unlikely, honestly the first major things you’d see is the white spots and flashing. I’m not sure how susceptible anthias are to brook but it is possible. Velvet also raises breathing rate.
#fishmedic

 

[machadolucasvp]

Thank you for your insights! For me, it's really hard to tell if it's breathing heavy or normal. Do you think he is breathing heavily?

What could be the possible actions, monitor him to see if any other symptom appears?

 

[Sharkbait19]

For now all I can say is keep a close eye on it until someone more knowledgeable can chime in.

 

[SlugSnorter]

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@vetteguy53081 What do you think? (sry for the ping)

 

[nereefpat]

That looks like normal anthias behavior to me.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Cant

@vetteguy53081 What do you think? (sry for the ping)

open video on phone but leaving work shortly and will review

 

[vetteguy53081]

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Yeah- fairly normal breathing. Assure good water quality and diet as fish is slightly thin. They need to eat a few times per day. Utilize auto feeder if absent for a portion of given day.
What test kits are you using?
As Tank looks fairly new , monitor ammonia and nitrate

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

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It is breathing at about 150 beats per minutes, so pretty fast. Also, it looks thin behind the head to me, that is a sign that it has gone a long time without enough food. Is it feeding well for you now?

Jay

 

[machadolucasvp]

Thank you guys for the insights! Appreciate

The ammonia test kit is from salifert but the nitrite and nitrate are redsea.

I'm feeding 3 times per day frozen brine shrimp, he is not eating pellets yet. I will look into buying an auto feeder but I suppose that first I need to make it eat pellets right?

Reading a little bit, I found that frozen shrimp tends to not be so much nutritious, I was thinking in buy another type of frozen food, what do you guys recommend?

In the shop, he was in a tank full of anthias. I suppose they were fighting for food, maybe that's why he is thin.

I will keep posted about the updates here. If he develops any other symptoms. For now, it's still breathing like that but it's eating and swimming well. I realized that he breaths fast even when resting (way slower but still looks fast to me)

Ammonia is still 0 and nitrite as well. I will do a test for nitrate but when he arrived the nitrate was around 2ppm. I have a skimmer that it's bubbling like crazy, I put the return of the skimmer on the tank itself, I was thinking that would take time to kick in but it has been more than 1 week. Thinking in maybe let it draw the water and replace it with a water change

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Correct, frozen brine shrimp is very attractive to fish, but it is not very nutritious. It is lacking in essential fatty acids, and the freezing process ruptures the shells and makes it less nutritious.

If you can get frozen mysid shrimp, that would be better. You may need to use a razor or sharp knife to cut the mysids up small enough for the anthias to be able to eat them.

Jay

 

[machadolucasvp]

Guys I was counting the beats per minute and I'm getting 100-125. And sometimes he stretches his mouth, like opening it at maximum, it's not frequent but let's say that he does that a few times per hour

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Guys I was counting the beats per minute and I'm getting 100-125. And sometimes he stretches his mouth, like opening it at maximum, it's not frequent but let's say that he does that a few times per hour

Agreed - I did a recount and got 125 BPM, so not as fast as I first thought, but still deep and a bit fast.

The yawning could just be behavioral, or it could be a sign of gill flukes. Detritus in the water can also cause that, but the water looks clear to me.

Have you considered trying a Praziquantel treatment? I'm not sure what products you would have in Spain.

Jay

 

[Bucs20fan]

It is definitely skinny for sure. I recently acquired 3 lyretails and they acted exactly the same way. Im not saying there is definitely an absence of any kind of sickness involved but I did see the same behavior. It for sure needs some more meat on its bones its very thin. They can be kind of picky when it comes to foods and what I mean by that is they will attempt to eat just about anything but they actually eat a lot less than they bring into their mouth. They will spit out alot that isnt the perfect size for them.