Help a new reffer out.

[Rusty4200]

I have a question. I'm new to the hobby. I purchased some cleaning shrimp. Everytime I buy a hand full of fish they come up missing. So now with all my fish ghosted. I'm left with 1 banded ghrimp and 2 banded shrimp. Has anyone else experienced this? I've read up on theese three dont look like they'd kill everything. However I'm going to pull them out.

 

[Idoc]

Post a pic of your tank. What fish came up missing?

Do you have a cover on your tank? Look in thr overflow box to make sure these fish aren't in there. Also look behind your tank around the floor.

 

[Fishy212]

Coral banded shrimp have big claws and can be aggressive if not fed properly. They are known to chase fish and invertebrates. Mine is not as aggressive because I keep him happy

 

[Rusty4200]

I have a cover on my tank. I did look in the overflow. I found one died fish in the bottom. I thought I'd been feeding them right. Photoplanton and krill. I real puzzled here

 

[Rusty4200]

There has to be a logical answer here that I'm not seeing. A lesson to learn I dont see.

 

[TheShrimpNibbler]

What fish were they, and can we have pics of the shrimp? Also, what size tank? What are the params? What else is in the tank?

 

[Rusty4200]

The thank lights are out right now. I have a 90 gallon tank with a refugium. Reef octopus 150sss. The only this that's alittle out is the ammonia at 1rpm I think I said that right. The one shrimp have a red strip with a white strip down the center.

 

[Stevel]

Was tank cycling? Some fish can’t take high ammonia and might have died in tank and were picked apart by your shrimp? I lost two diamond gobies to my overflow and had to make cover for it.

 

[ScottR]

How old is your tank? Perhaps not properly cycled. Ammonia is toxic to fish.

 

[Rusty4200]

Thank you. You guys could be right. Just puzzled me I go to bed with what seemed to be 7 happy fish and wake up to none. I did ask for help. Maybe I'll just hold back on fish for awhile. Let who lives in there just stay there

 

[Stevel]

Thank you. You guys could be right. Just puzzled me I go to bed with what seemed to be 7 happy fish and wake up to none. I did ask for help. Maybe I'll just hold back on fish for awhile. Let who lives in there just stay there

Best to cycle with durable fish that are not to pricey and don’t get to many a one time when cycling. It’s a tuff lesson to learn but almost everyone has done this mainly out of excitement and seeing so many beautiful fish. Patience is a virtue.

 

[Mjfalend]

Thank you. You guys could be right. Just puzzled me I go to bed with what seemed to be 7 happy fish and wake up to none. I did ask for help. Maybe I'll just hold back on fish for awhile. Let who lives in there just stay there

I am no expert but I know when we did make any changes in the tank, Rich always bought blue-green chromis. They are cheap and it’s a good way to for fish while working on getting the cycling mature.

 

[TheShrimpNibbler]

That ammonia is high, you need to let the tank cycle as others have said. Personally, I don’t like to put fish in until after the cycle is done. With that said, I’m not sure that 1ppm would have killed 7 fish in one night. If you used live rock instead of dry, there could be some deadly hitchhikers. Have you been hearing any clicking sounds from the tank?

 

[45ZoaGarden]

Hhhmmmm something isn’t right though. Crustaceans such as shrimp are very temperamental when it comes to nitrates and ammonia. Fish are much more hardy. Granted there should be no ammonia in the tank but if that were the issue, the shrimp should be dead and the fish should still be kicking... do you know exactly what kind of shrimp you have? Any pictures? I had a coral banded shrimp for over 7 years. He grew bigger than my hand and DID occasionally catch a small fish that strayed too close to his cave, even though I fed him daily. Pistol shrimp and mantis shrimp are known to go on the attack if fish get too close...

 

[TheShrimpNibbler]

Hhhmmmm something isn’t right though. Crustaceans such as shrimp are very temperamental when it comes to nitrates and ammonia. Fish are much more hardy. Granted there should be no ammonia in the tank but if that were the issue, the shrimp should be dead and the fish should still be kicking... do you know exactly what kind of shrimp you have? Any pictures? I had a coral banded shrimp for over 7 years. He grew bigger than my hand and DID occasionally catch a small fish that strayed too close to his cave, even though I fed him daily. Pistol shrimp and mantis shrimp are known to go on the attack if fish get too close...

I agree. We definitely need pictures of the shrimp. Almost all marine shrimp are red with white lines. If you don’t have pictures of your shrimp, can you at least post picture of one that looks like them from the internet? Also, the first post made it sound like there were multiple types of shrimp. Is this the case, or did I misread?

 

[45ZoaGarden]

I agree. We definitely need pictures of the shrimp. Almost all marine shrimp are red with white lines. If you don’t have pictures of your shrimp, can you at least post picture of one that looks like them from the internet? Also, the first post made it sound like there were multiple types of shrimp. Is this the case, or did I misread?

+1

 

[Rusty4200]

I'm very sure they are Skunk Cleaner Shrimp. The other one is a banded shrimp. That's what puzzling me. Why are the shrimp still alive and the fire red gobys still alive. Everything I've read tell me the shrimp dont do this kind of thing

 

[TheShrimpNibbler]

Any clicking noises coming from the tank?

 

[Rusty4200]

Not that I've heard. I spend alot of time around it to. Lol. I have to ask why you asked that?

 

[TheShrimpNibbler]

Not that I've heard. I spend alot of time around it to. Lol. I have to ask why you asked that?

If you used live rock, there could be a hitchhiker app sting your fish. Pistol and mantis shrimp make clicking noises sometimes. Could be another hitchhiker that doesn’t make noise still though.