HELP, fish dropping like flies

[Tigerito]

Hello.
I have a peninsula 500 134G. It's stocked with coral and fish. Last week I did testing ans everything was normal except nitrate was high at near 40 so I did a LARGE water change, ans ordered nopox to start.

Nopox is arriving tonight, but yesterday the cleaner wrasse died and my gem tang eyes are cloudy and my tangs seem skiddish and not eager to eat like usuall. Today I woke up to my blue hippo trying to die (as of this second still alive) and my gem tang not looking great. Hard to tell from photo but blue hippos skin is looking strange. Almost like ribs are showing through. Powder blue I found dead with a wierd white blotching on the body. Any help or advise is GREATLY appreciated.

 

[Mr. Mojo Rising]

How old is the tank? How many fish have died? When was the last fish added to the tank?

#fishmedics

 

[Lavey29]

40ppm nitrates will not affect fish at all. You have a disease in the tank.

 

[KrisReef]

@Jay Hemdal

Agree with @Lavey29

 

[Spare time]

I am assuming the fish were never quarantined?

 

[Cell]

Only fish affected? Coral and inverts are fine? This would rule out a water quality issue.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I see some SPS, so you can rule out water quality issues.

Do the fish show rapid breathing?
If you aren’t sure, you can post a video and I can tell you.

Do you have a fish treatment tank available?

Jay

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hello.
I have a peninsula 500 134G. It's stocked with coral and fish. Last week I did testing ans everything was normal except nitrate was high at near 40 so I did a LARGE water change, ans ordered nopox to start.

Nopox is arriving tonight, but yesterday the cleaner wrasse died and my gem tang eyes are cloudy and my tangs seem skiddish and not eager to eat like usuall. Today I woke up to my blue hippo trying to die (as of this second still alive) and my gem tang not looking great. Hard to tell from photo but blue hippos skin is looking strange. Almost like ribs are showing through. Powder blue I found dead with a wierd white blotching on the body. Any help or advise is GREATLY appreciated.

The markings appear to be velvet . If true, some signs you would have noticed are :
- Scratching body against hard objects
- Fish is lethargic
- Loss of appetite and weight loss
- Rapid, labored breathing
- Fins clamped against the body
- rapid breathing and mucus around the gills

Agree with Jay for need for video under white light intensity for clear assessment.

 

[Tigerito]

How old is the tank? How many fish have died? When was the last fish added to the tank?

#fishmedics

Tank was set up in July using amonia dosing. 1st batch was late August, second batch ( tangs) was beginning Oct. Just Cleaner shrimp and cleaner wrasse to treat ich in mid OCT. Wrasse and shrimp had been quarantined for over 2 months in copper. The ich dicipated with them and metroplex.

 

[Tigerito]

I am assuming the fish were never quarantined?

All quarantined

 

[Tigerito]

I see some SPS, so you can rule out water quality issues.

Do the fish show rapid breathing?
If you aren’t sure, you can post a video and I can tell you.

Do you have a fish treatment tank available?

Jay

I do see rapid breathing, fogging of eyes, and the blue hippo looks to have wierd pattern on skin.
Np I do not have treatment tank available. Dr.reef quarantined did 99% my fish

 

[Tigerito]

The markings appear to be velvet . If true, some signs you would have noticed are :
- Scratching body against hard objects
- Fish is lethargic
- Loss of appetite and weight loss
- Rapid, labored breathing
- Fins clamped against the body
- rapid breathing and mucus around the gills

Agree with Jay for need for video under white light intensity for clear assessment.

They have been doing dive bombs itching against the tibunara rocks. I do see rapid breathing and fogging eyes from the tangs.

The markings appear to be velvet . If true, some signs you would have noticed are :
- Scratching body against hard objects
- Fish is lethargic
- Loss of appetite and weight loss
- Rapid, labored breathing
- Fins clamped against the body
- rapid breathing and mucus around the gills

Agree with Jay for need for video under white light intensity for clear assessment.

They have been dive bombing the tibunara rock to itch occasionally. The tangs havnt really been eating. They do have rapid breathing and eye fogging. The dsardini skin looks wierd with black specles. I don't see mucus or Finns clamped. I have been playing and soaking metroplex and vitamin C in there algae clip, is there another treatment I can feed or add to tank? I don't have availability for auwarenteen. Only a 10 gallon spare tank I was using for copopod culture.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I do see rapid breathing, fogging of eyes, and the blue hippo looks to have wierd pattern on skin.
Np I do not have treatment tank available. Dr.reef quarantined did 99% my fish

Ugh - this could be velvet, Amyloodinium. That is really impossible to treat without a treatment tank. Coppersafe works, as does hydrogen peroxide (dips, and then move the fish to a fresh tank).

A video might help me confirm this.

Jay

 

[Tigerito]

Ugh - this could be velvet, Amyloodinium. That is really impossible to treat without a treatment tank. Coppersafe works, as does hydrogen peroxide (dips, and then move the fish to a fresh tank).

A video might help me confirm this.

Jay

Everything I'm reading matches up:/ I see fresh-dip and buying the quick quarantine stuff which I can do today but unfortunately there's no way for me to get a second tank other than that 10:/ the wrasse looks like he has powder all over him Hensel why I thought ich.

 

[vetteguy53081]

They have been doing dive bombs itching against the tibunara rocks. I do see rapid breathing and fogging eyes from the tangs.

They have been dive bombing the tibunara rock to itch occasionally. The tangs havnt really been eating. They do have rapid breathing and eye fogging. The dsardini skin looks wierd with black specles. I don't see mucus or Finns clamped. I have been playing and soaking metroplex and vitamin C in there algae clip, is there another treatment I can feed or add to tank? I don't have availability for auwarenteen. Only a 10 gallon spare tank I was using for copopod culture.

Ditch the metro especially if you are just applying it as it is easy to misuse and must be applied at .05gm by weight which is very tiny. Vitamin C good for immunity system but not a cure. Ultimately a sterile quarantine tank with coppersafe at 2.25 and added aeration will put you in the right direction. There may be more , hence the request for clear video of at least 30 seconds. BLACK SPECS CAN BE TURBULLIAN WORMS (sorry for cape) but video again will offer best assessment

 

[Cell]

A tank can be any vessel that can hold water. 5G bucket etc...not ideal but better than nothing

 

[Tigerito]

A tank can be any vessel that can hold water. 5G bucket etc...not ideal but better than nothing

If there in 5 g bucket with aeration and ato for copper, how long can these larger tangs be in there? Wouldn't it be to small for em?

 

[Tigerito]

Ditch the metro especially if you are just applying it as it is easy to misuse and must be applied at .05gm by weight which is very tiny. Vitamin C good for immunity system but not a cure. Ultimately a sterile quarantine tank with coppersafe at 2.25 and added aeration will put you in the right direction. There may be more , hence the request for clear video of at least 30 seconds. BLACK SPECS CAN BE TURBULLIAN WORMS (sorry for cape) but video again will offer best assessment

I placed a video on my last reply ( looks like photo but if you click it should show). The other gent brought up using a 5 gallon bucket and set it up as quarantine for ato and go obtain copper. How long can they be in there? My gem tang is a pretty big boy.
Thank you for your help seriously just tryna save this tank

 

[Cell]

If there in 5 g bucket with aeration and ato for copper, how long can these larger tangs be in there? Wouldn't it be to small for em?

Not really suitable for the large tangs, but perhaps the wrasse or other smaller fish.

 

[Tigerito]

Not really suitable for the large tangs, but perhaps the wrasse or other smaller fish.

Ugh I'm just trying to work a solution. So far I understand, to fresh dip, then run in copper. How long is the ideal time for copper in something seeperate? With aeration and filter. Is there anything else I should add? Meds for the display? Any other dips? Really don't want to loose anymore....