Help flame angel upside down.

[GoReefin]

Bought this guy about 10 days ago and been doing great eating like a champ. Found him upside down at the bottom of the tank today trying to wedge himself in between rocks. He isn't breathing fast. I think it could be a swim bladder problem.

All other fish are doing great. Water parameters are great.

Any ideas would be awesome!

 

[Unitylover]

he seems to have some dots and discoloring.
@Jay Hemdal
@vetteguy53081

 

[GoReefin]

Doesnt look like ick or velvet to me. He isn't breathing hard or rapid at all

 

[Unitylover]

he does look discolored though.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Bought this guy about 10 days ago and been doing great eating like a champ. Found him upside down at the bottom of the tank today trying to wedge himself in between rocks. He isn't breathing fast. I think it could be a swim bladder problem.

All other fish are doing great. Water parameters are great.

Any ideas would be awesome!

Sorry to see that. It is unlikely to be a swim bladder issue. Typically, when a fish goes down like this after previously doing well, it is termed being moribund, which just means close to death….but why, I can’t say without some background info (see the link below my name here).
What other fish are in the tank?

Jay

 

[Projects with Sam]

I have a Coral Beauty that got a scratch and a pretty serious bacterial infection that looked similar. Do you have a video?

 

[GoReefin]

Sorry to see that. It is unlikely to be a swim bladder issue. Typically, when a fish goes down like this after previously doing well, it is termed being moribund, which just means close to death….but why, I can’t say without some background info (see the link below my name here).
What other fish are in the tank?

Jay

Have a catalina goby, 2 clowns, a yellow banded possum wrasse, a tanaka's pygmy wrasse, and a bengaii cardinal fish in my system of 2 tanks.

 

[GoReefin]

Here is a video hopefully it helps

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Have a catalina goby, 2 clowns, a yellow banded possum wrasse, a tanaka's pygmy wrasse, and a bengaii cardinal fish in my system of 2 tanks.

No symptoms with them? No drop in appetite or rapid breathing?

If / when the angel dies, give it a 5 minute FW dip and look for flukes - gives you some idea if you’ll need to treat the other fish.

Jay

 

[GoReefin]

No symptoms with them? No drop in appetite or rapid breathing?

If / when the angel dies, give it a 5 minute FW dip and look for flukes - gives you some idea if you’ll need to treat the other fish.

Jay

Other fish are doing great no problems.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Here is a video hopefully it helps

Yes, that isn’t a swim bladder issue. What about trying a FW dip on it now? It may prove fatal, but the outcome will be that if you don’t intercede….
Jay

 

[GoReefin]

Yes, that isn’t a swim bladder issue. What about trying a FW dip on it now? It may prove fatal, but the outcome will be that if you don’t intercede….
Jay

Not sure what's going on with my cardinal fish did it just lay eggs? Only have 1 cardinal fish...

I've also started the fresh water dip

 

[Unitylover]

tap the fishs' fins so it will move. Thats needed. preferably with a turkey bastor

 

[Geebs19]

Sorry to hear, hope he pulls through. This fish for me is the bane of my existence, I have never been able to keep one alive.

 

[GoReefin]

Cardinal fish video.

 

[GoReefin]

tap the fishs' fins so it will move. Thats needed. preferably with a turkey bastor

Tapped him several times still no flukes coming out

 

[Unitylover]

only one species of flukes can be seen without a microscope. Get a microscope or something.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Cardinal fish video.

See how it has a prolapse at its anal opening? That is weird - I thought males were the ones who brood the eggs, but I wonder if this is a female and the prolapse is from releasing the eggs?
Jay

 

[GoReefin]

See how it has a prolapse at its anal opening? That is weird - I thought males were the ones who brood the eggs, but I wonder if this is a female and the prolapse is from releasing the eggs?
Jay

I thought so too! I only have 1 cardinal fish I don't have a pair... maybe a female with unfertilized eggs?

 

[GoReefin]

Well he is still alive after the fresh water dip. However still upside down not really swimming much. I'm guessing it's only a matter of time?