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I guess you could keep hitting the tank with PZQ in the mean time to get the flukes off of him
Help identifying a disease
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I was thinking about it, though its not readily apparent that it is flukes. I'd actually lean more towards something bacterial. I am half contemplating turning my carbon back on, doing a big water change and then dosing either ruby rally or melafix if I can't get him out by tomorrow.
The downside to all this dosing is that my other fish look fine, so them bathing in antibiotics for no reason just makes them less effective in the future if they truly need them - not to mention that since my skimmer is turned off, my pH can creep below acceptable levels since my skimmer keeps my pH in check
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If most of this stuff has fallen off, maybe just maybe he'll recover on his own. Time heals all wounds right?
I know! Show him a picture of his girlfriend! That'll get him excited enough to shake off those lint-balls! Yeah baby! [emoji23]
I know! Show him a picture of his girlfriend! That'll get him excited enough to shake off those lint-balls! Yeah baby! [emoji23]
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Lol - I should! That would be so cute
Downside is I can' get him out. Upside is that most the weird stuff is gone. His skin underneath doesn' look too bad. I do see a few raised scales and that one small white patch on his jaw is still there, but nothing else. Still not eating aggressively - a passive bite here and there...
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Hi folks, I'm restarting this thread because my triggerfish has continued to get worse. At first I thought whatever it was was gone, but it has reared its ugly head with a vengeance... He's still eating, but clearly still not healthy. Thus far, I tried rally in the main tank, prazipro in the main tank... Ive fed him metroplex and kanaplex.... nothing helped...Lol - I should! That would be so cute
Downside is I can' get him out. Upside is that most the weird stuff is gone. His skin underneath doesn' look too bad. I do see a few raised scales and that one small white patch on his jaw is still there, but nothing else. Still not eating aggressively - a passive bite here and there...
I was finally able to trap him and bring him to QT. I had him in neoplex (an antibiotic) for 7 days, but it didn't help. He's had 2 freshwater baths - one that had a drop of melechite green in case this is ick/velvet.... He's now been in copper for 2 days.
Nothing seems to be doing a lick of good. I'm posting pictures of this poor fish as of today. What's worse is that I'm now noticing a similar issue on his girlfriend. I feel terrible, since I thought he'd gotten better so I added her to the main tank a little while ago (she was in QT).
Thus far, none of my other fish seem to have the same issue.
To describe it, I do see white spots, but also, his skin looks to be slothing. His fins are frayed. This is the best shot i could get. He's anchored himself into a fake decoration and I can't get a full body shot because he now hides ever time I go near the tank... @Humblefish... any ideas??
@CanadianReefer That could be ich or velvet, although I'm leaning more towards the latter. However, skin sloughing is a symptom of brook 
: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/brooklynella.247938/
I think I would dose Metroplex in conjunction with copper to address the possibility of brook.
Any fish showing symptoms would also benefit from either a formalin or acriflavine (Rally) bath.
: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/brooklynella.247938/I think I would dose Metroplex in conjunction with copper to address the possibility of brook.
Any fish showing symptoms would also benefit from either a formalin or acriflavine (Rally) bath.
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I've been putting metroplex in his food for the past 2 weeks. Should I put it directly into the water along with the copper???@CanadianReefer That could be ich or velvet, although I'm leaning more towards the latter. However, skin sloughing is a symptom of brook
I think I would dose Metroplex in conjunction with copper to address the possibility of brook.
Any fish showing symptoms would also benefit from either a formalin or acriflavine (Rally) bath.
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Okay, I'll try that just in case that's what it is, along with some baths. That is for the help.
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So he's only getting worse 
He's in full copper solution with metro added. I had to give him another freshwater bath today. He's basically listless at the bottom of the tank. I cannot buy formalin in Canada, apparently... at least not that quickly. I can get rally though, so perhaps I'll pick some up today and give him a bath later on. I'm so devastated What's worse is that his girlfriend is showing the same symptoms now, so I'm likely going to lose them both... and that is my bad. I only added her to the DT because his symptoms had gone away for a while and I thought he was over whatever this is. He stopped eating completely last night.
I'll keep you posted, but I'm afraid it really doesn't look good for him at this point...
He's in full copper solution with metro added. I had to give him another freshwater bath today. He's basically listless at the bottom of the tank. I cannot buy formalin in Canada, apparently... at least not that quickly. I can get rally though, so perhaps I'll pick some up today and give him a bath later on. I'm so devastated What's worse is that his girlfriend is showing the same symptoms now, so I'm likely going to lose them both... and that is my bad. I only added her to the DT because his symptoms had gone away for a while and I thought he was over whatever this is. He stopped eating completely last night. I'll keep you posted, but I'm afraid it really doesn't look good for him at this point...
Big G
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Yes ^^^ Rally has both antiseptic and antibiotic qualities and has worked wonders. Highly recommend.
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@Humblefish here's what he looks like today. It's only getting worse. Does this picture help identify the disease any better?? I'm getting desperate here...
Big G
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From Humblefish's treatment advisory:
Brooklynella:
Symptoms – This is most often seen in clownfish, but it can afflict any fish. The fish’s skin will appear to be peeling or sloughing off, oftentimes causing excessive white mucous to form around the affected area(s).
Treatment options - Formalin or acriflavine bath, followed by additional baths (as needed - but give the fish a day to recuperate in-between baths). You can use formalin in a QT (at a much lower concentration than the bath), but great care must be taken to provide plenty of gas exchange as formalin will quickly deplete the water of oxygen. For this reason, doing baths is the safer option as the fish can be pulled from the formalin if showing signs of distress. Acriflavine is probably the better option for in-tank QT use.
The following products contain formalin: Formalin-MS (preferred), Quick Cure, Aquarium Solutions Ich-X, Kordon Rid-Ich Plus.
Acriflavine can be found in Acriflavine-MS (preferred) and Ruby Reef Rally.
Metronidazole (exs. Seachem MetroPlex, Metro-MS, Hikari Metro+) is considered an alternative treatment for brook. A freshwater dip may provide temporary relief if you are unable to locate any of the aforementioned medications right away. Some even claim total eradication of the disease is possible just by performing multiple FW dips on the fish.
Brooklynella:
Symptoms – This is most often seen in clownfish, but it can afflict any fish. The fish’s skin will appear to be peeling or sloughing off, oftentimes causing excessive white mucous to form around the affected area(s).
Treatment options - Formalin or acriflavine bath, followed by additional baths (as needed - but give the fish a day to recuperate in-between baths). You can use formalin in a QT (at a much lower concentration than the bath), but great care must be taken to provide plenty of gas exchange as formalin will quickly deplete the water of oxygen. For this reason, doing baths is the safer option as the fish can be pulled from the formalin if showing signs of distress. Acriflavine is probably the better option for in-tank QT use.
The following products contain formalin: Formalin-MS (preferred), Quick Cure, Aquarium Solutions Ich-X, Kordon Rid-Ich Plus.
Acriflavine can be found in Acriflavine-MS (preferred) and Ruby Reef Rally.
Metronidazole (exs. Seachem MetroPlex, Metro-MS, Hikari Metro+) is considered an alternative treatment for brook. A freshwater dip may provide temporary relief if you are unable to locate any of the aforementioned medications right away. Some even claim total eradication of the disease is possible just by performing multiple FW dips on the fish.
@CanadianReefer What meds are you currently treating with? Can you get Ruby Reef Rally??
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He is currently in a mix of copper and metroplex. I have ruby reef rally and paraguard on hand. I cannot obtain formalin.
