Help Me Understand Palytoxin

@Paul B has some info jn his book about bleaching tanks. If you want to nuke a tank your can add bleach then use a declorinator. I don't remember the ratio and forgot the book at someone's house, but I'll get the info if you want it.

Wouldn’t hurt to know if you don’t mind. I haven’t decided to bleach it as I don’t even know there is any palytoxin and that may be an extreme measure if not done properly. From I read 10% bleach seems common.
 
No idea. All of my equipment has been exposed to Z&P (I have some in the tank right now) and I have no issues with the stuff. When I clean, I do use Muratic Acid, but I often just take a flow pump or heater out of the tank, let it dry, wrap up the cord and stash it away until next time. I have never done anything special for Palytoxin.

About all that I do is to close my eyes when I am fragging zoas. You can get squirted.
seems like wearing glasses when fragging would be easier than fragging with your eyes closed ;-)
 
The biggest thing to remember about safely dealing with palys and zoas is to never try to rid them from a rock by boiling, burning, scraping out of water, or anything extreme like that. Personally, I'd never risk it, although some people still do it, but use goggles, gloves, and a respirator in an open air space. The overwhelming majority of the palytoxin stories you read about are people trying to stop those big ugly old school brown palys from spreading on their rock work, so they take to extreme measures and end up releasing the palytoxin into the air.

It's definitely possible to have run-ins with palytoxin without doing any of those things, but not as likely, especially if you're not fragging and take basic safety precautions like disinfecting your hands after being in the tank.
 
Don’t underestimate Palytoxin. You will hear tons of anecdotal evidence that it is “safe” or “overblown” but the fact is it is one of the most deadly toxins on the planet. Do some research outside of forums. True in most day to day activities you are not exposing yourself to much risk. But doing things like taking rocks that have palythoas or zoas out of the aquarium and scrubbing with hot water is a very high risk activity. You should have a very healthy respect for it as it can be very deadly or cause permant damage. The trouble seems to arise mostly when it is aerosolized somehow, this is when the SHTF in the aquarium world it seems and you hear these stories. It wouldn’t be of concern in high enough concentrations within the water column to be a concern for the most part, and bleach does neutralize it. I’m no expert, but just wanted to offer my two cents in that it is very much worth doing some research on it because it can be very dangerous stuff. Also, it is now believed that the actual toxin originates from dinoflagellates, and is synthesized through the zoanthid corals somehow to utilize as a form of protection. I’ll see if I can dig up the sources.

Edit to add: Should have read through the entire thread before commenting, so a lot of what I said is just repeat info, sorry!
 
I've eaten chicken wings after handling palythoas...they were so delicious and smelled so good i completely forgot to wash my hands... I thought I was going to die. Nothing happened, except a good ole #2
 
I'd steer away from bleach on equipment that could have a seal, ie o-rings. The bleach will make the o-rings crack. Vinegar works really well. Just soak over night and use a old toothbrush.
 
Thoughts on palytoxin existing on used aquarium or equipment?

IMO of no concern. You do not need to bleach your equipment just to get rid of the toxin - if there is no zoas left - it unlikely that toxin will be there. But stones that can keep living tissues in it for long time with help of humid environment maybe should be bleached. There is a lot of scientific articles about palytoxin.

Sincerely Lasse
 
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