drawman
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If it is in fact velvet then the other fish are at risk and I would consider treating all of them and letting the tank go fallow. Same with ich. I would read the articles melypr1985 posted they are very helpful.
HELP!!! URGENTLY I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL PULL THROUGH THE NIGHT!!HELP!
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melypr1985
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He doesn't have flukes. Like already mentioned we believe he possibly has velvet coupled with an infection. Please read the links I and Humblefish posted. They explain everything. After you have read them, if you still have questions absolutely ask them here. We are here to help
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X3 I also agree with this and highly suspect velvetHe doesn't have flukes. Like already mentioned we believe he possibly has velvet coupled with an infection. Please read the links I and Humblefish posted. They explain everything. After you have read them, if you still have questions absolutely ask them here. We are here to help
thanksHe doesn't have flukes. Like already mentioned we believe he possibly has velvet coupled with an infection. Please read the links I and Humblefish posted. They explain everything. After you have read them, if you still have questions absolutely ask them here. We are here to help
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Awesome write up!!!Hi there! I answered this in your other thread. But I will copy and paste it here too. Actually seeing pictures I can't tell if it's ick or velvet. Because of that, out of the options you will see here, I would suggest copper in a QT.
The cloudy eyes are an infection. With ich, you can't get rid of it without QT and treatment. To be rid of it in your display you will need to remove all fish and let the tank sit fallow (fishless) for 76 days. There are several ways to treat for ick, I'll link them here for you to read. The eyes are caused by the ick. Epsom salt will help with the swelling and if they can't heal the infection on their own antibiotics are needed. Kanaplex is my med of choice for this purpose, and doing it in the water in the QT is the best way to administer. This is a lot of info, but it's all good stuff. Give it a read and ask any questions it might leave you with.
How to Quarantine
Ich eradication vs. Ich management
Ich (Cryptocaryon irritans)
Velvet (Amyloodinium ocellatum)
Antibiotics: Treats bacterial infections, which are oftentimes “secondary” to preexisting parasitic infestations.
How To Treat - Follow the directions on the label of whatever product you are using. Always use a broad spectrum antibiotic medication i.e. one that treats both gram-positive and gram-negative bacterial diseases (very important). Examples of this include Furan-2, Kanamycin akaSeachem Kanaplex, Nitrofuracin Green Powder, Triple Sulfa Powder or a combination of using both Erythromycin & Minocycline. The latter can be accomplished (albeit expensively) by using freshwater Maracyn 1 & 2 and then doubling the dosage for saltwater use. When battling a particularly nasty bacterial infection, combining Furan-2, Kanaplex and metronidazole (ex. Seachem MetroPlex) can be very effective (and safe).Props to “hedgedrew” for enlightening me of this.
Normally you have to do 4 doses to complete a full course of treatment. The instructions may say to dose every 24 hours, and perform water changes at certain intervals. In my experience, you often have to do 2 full courses of treatment (or 8 doses total) before a fish will show signs of improvement (antibiotics are notoriously slow acting with fish). If a fish shows no signs of improvement after the second full course, then it’s time to try a completely different medication. Just like with humans, sometimes a certain fish will respond better to a different antibiotic. You can run activated carbon at any time when you wish to end treatment.
Pros - One of the few medications that can safely be mixed with others. You can use antibiotics in conjunction with just about everything.
Cons/Side Effects - Appetite suppression, depletes the water of oxygen (so provide additional gas exchange).
Epsom Salt: Treats eye and other injuries. Popeye in one eye usually means injury, but popeye in both eyes usually denotes a bacterial infection requiring antibiotic treatment. Cloudy eye can be a bacterial infection or flukes.
How To Treat - 1 tablespoon per 5 gallons of aquarium water. Repeat only once, if necessary. Use only “USP” grade Epsom salt.
Pros - Reef safe, as Epsom salt is just magnesium sulfate.
Cons/Side Effects - The effects of excessive sulfate in a reef aquarium are not fully known.
Breakthecycle2
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Not sure if it was mentioned, but if it is velvet and it most likely is, hypo salinity will not do anything for it.
yeah... i found some medication with the right treatment... the smaller of the two foxface died on sundaym night and the larger which i dipped twice and medicated died today.... seriously disturbed...favourite fish had them for years.... really grown on to them ....
melypr1985
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Sorry for your loss 
