Heres what a gas oven does to ph

[HuduVudu]

Yeah I was more going along the lines of if the gas burning on stove using up more and more oxygen and no good ventilation then combined with people in house using oxygen and breathing out co2 then when gas exchange happened at surface of water or skimmer then could potentially be not enough oxygen in air and co2 out of aquarium and oxygen going in kind of thing then this could affect ph ,this is correct what I'm thinking or am I way off ?
I'm trained gas engineer and can fix gas appliances but ph of aquariums I'm OK and I know gas exchange happens at surface and nature tries to make equilibrium but if there's more co2 in room than aquarium then could be adding co2 to tank rather than what we want to happen of removing co2 and adding oxygen when gas exchange happens.
Not sure if how I wrote this makes sense but it does in my head ha ha but yeah c02 produced when gas is burnt

Here is food for thought.

If a mammal is in an air tight space what will it die from?

Once I figured this out things became much clearer for me.

 

[Garf]

Here is food for thought.

If a mammal is in an air tight space what will it die from?

Once I figured this out things became much clearer for me.

Cruelty

 

[LuizW13]

Sounds like a it's worth the trade off to me for a fresh homemade cheesecake

 

[TigNJaxx]

Lol shell still make em, just ill sneak open a window when she isnt looking.

...and give the fishies individual parkas at the same time. Haha!
~Interesting that a gas range could have that effect. Never thought about it. At least it's short lived and only on occasion.

 

[ying yang]

Here is food for thought.

If a mammal is in an air tight space what will it die from?

Once I figured this out things became much clearer for me.

My first thought was carbon monoxide poisoning but I guess it won't be that easy so let me ponder on it for a while and I get back to you ^_^
Reasoning is uses all oxygen up and as air tight space then oxygen not getting replenished and mammal breathing out c02 so eventually when all oxygen used up then breathe in c02 and die. Ummm maybe it us that easy and answer c02 unless this a joke ?

 

[HuduVudu]

My first thought was carbon monoxide poisoning but I guess it won't be that easy so let me ponder on it for a while and I get back to you ^_^
Reasoning is uses all oxygen up and as air tight space then oxygen not getting replenished and mammal breathing out c02 so eventually when all oxygen used up then breathe in c02 and die. Ummm maybe it us that easy and answer c02 unless this a joke ?

Not a joke.

Look at the graph it tells the tale.

It's funny we think that being in an airtight space is the same thing as drowning. The chemical causes of death are VERY different in each case.

 

[ying yang]

Note how much oxygen is in the atmosphere and how little there is of everything else. This includes CO2 which constitutes .04% of total volume.

Look at this graph?

 

[ying yang]

In a vacuum, the only way to lose heat is by radiation (which occurs very slowly for a relatively cool object like a human body) or by evaporation of fluid. You would still die of course, but it would be by asphyxiation. Your blood holds enough oxygen for about 15 seconds of brain activity.

I cheated and googled what would happen and says this If in a vacuum but .....

 

[HuduVudu]

Look at this graph?

Yup

 

[ying yang]

What would I die from if was locked in an airtight room, too little oxygen or too much carbon dioxide?
The volume of carbon dioxide you exhale is approximately equal to the volume of oxygen you consume. This means that in a closed room, the oxygen concentration will drop at approximately the same rate the carbon dioxide concentration rises. For the purposes of the experiment, the air in the room is assumed to contain 79 percent nitrogen, 21 percent oxygen, and negligible other components. (air normally contains around 0.04% CO2, which isn’t a lot).

You’re sitting in your airtight room and breathing. The oxygen level is slowly dropping and the carbon dioxide concentration is slowly rising. You’ll start to notice a problem around the point where the CO2 exceeds one percent. At this point, the oxygen concentration is still 20 percent, equivalent to living anywhere in the US that’s not right on the ocean. Air containing 1% CO2 is sufficient to cause the air to feel stuffy and make you feel dizzy. Any increased activity is going to make you breath rather hard.

At the point where the CO2 concentration exceeds 5%, you’re probably beginning to feel pretty ill, and may be having trouble thinking clearly. You’re probably not unconscious, but you can’t exert yourself at all without extreme fatigue, even though the air still contains 16% oxygen, which is about what you’d get living in Boulder, Colorado. If you’d just moved there and tried to go for a run before your body had acclimated to the altitude, it might leave you feeling rather short of breath, but if you slowed back down to a walk you’d be fine.

At somewhere around seven to ten percent CO2, you’re unconscious, and if you don’t get fresh air soon, you’re going to die. Let’s assume you’re really resilient, and it takes the full ten percent concentration to kill you. You probably died a while ago, but it makes the math even easier. The air in the room has lost almost half of its oxygen, meaning if it wasn’t for the CO2, you’d feel like you were climbing a rather tall mountain, for example most of the way up the side of Kilimanjaro, and if you weren’t a trained high altitude mountaineer in good shape, you’d be having a lot of trouble continuing. But, remember that people HAVE climbed Kilimanjaro, and even taller mountains, and survived.

So, the increase in CO2 is going to be what kills you.


So answer = c02 poisoning like I said ^_^

 

[HuduVudu]

In a vacuum, the only way to lose heat is by radiation (which occurs very slowly for a relatively cool object like a human body) or by evaporation of fluid. You would still die of course, but it would be by asphyxiation. Your blood holds enough oxygen for about 15 seconds of brain activity.

I cheated and googled what would happen and says this If in a vacuum but .....

Airtight is not a vacuum.

Here is a hint:
Oxygen makes up 20% of the atmosphere, Carbon dioxide makes up .04%.

 

[HuduVudu]

What would I die from if was locked in an airtight room, too little oxygen or too much carbon dioxide?
The volume of carbon dioxide you exhale is approximately equal to the volume of oxygen you consume. This means that in a closed room, the oxygen concentration will drop at approximately the same rate the carbon dioxide concentration rises. For the purposes of the experiment, the air in the room is assumed to contain 79 percent nitrogen, 21 percent oxygen, and negligible other components. (air normally contains around 0.04% CO2, which isn’t a lot).

You’re sitting in your airtight room and breathing. The oxygen level is slowly dropping and the carbon dioxide concentration is slowly rising. You’ll start to notice a problem around the point where the CO2 exceeds one percent. At this point, the oxygen concentration is still 20 percent, equivalent to living anywhere in the US that’s not right on the ocean. Air containing 1% CO2 is sufficient to cause the air to feel stuffy and make you feel dizzy. Any increased activity is going to make you breath rather hard.

At the point where the CO2 concentration exceeds 5%, you’re probably beginning to feel pretty ill, and may be having trouble thinking clearly. You’re probably not unconscious, but you can’t exert yourself at all without extreme fatigue, even though the air still contains 16% oxygen, which is about what you’d get living in Boulder, Colorado. If you’d just moved there and tried to go for a run before your body had acclimated to the altitude, it might leave you feeling rather short of breath, but if you slowed back down to a walk you’d be fine.

At somewhere around seven to ten percent CO2, you’re unconscious, and if you don’t get fresh air soon, you’re going to die. Let’s assume you’re really resilient, and it takes the full ten percent concentration to kill you. You probably died a while ago, but it makes the math even easier. The air in the room has lost almost half of its oxygen, meaning if it wasn’t for the CO2, you’d feel like you were climbing a rather tall mountain, for example most of the way up the side of Kilimanjaro, and if you weren’t a trained high altitude mountaineer in good shape, you’d be having a lot of trouble continuing. But, remember that people HAVE climbed Kilimanjaro, and even taller mountains, and survived.

So, the increase in CO2 is going to be what kills you.


So answer = c02 poisoning like I said ^_^

Bingo!!!

This is REALLY counter intuitive and we instinctively overestimate how much of a role oxygen plays in our breathing because we know that we need it to survive.

The reason that the CO2 causes our death is because our blood becomes more acidic and that causes grief on many systems used in our bodies. This PH imbalance is what will finally kill us.

 

[HuduVudu]

Think about what happens when our atmospheric CO2 levels rise in our homes due to our attempts to keep warm (or cool) by sealing our homes from the outside air.

CO2 is real and it is a severe problem. Most people don't even think about it.

I was utterly astounded when I started measuring the CO2 levels in my home. I guess we are lucky as reefers because we have cause to see these effects on our aquariums, giving us a clue about indoor CO2 levels.

 

[Miami Reef]

Lol. Low oxygen doesn’t make a low pH tank, high CO2 does.

If the surrounding air has a higher concentration of CO2 and a low concentration of O2 what do you think the tank will have?

 

[ying yang]

If the surrounding air has a higher concentration of CO2 and a low concentration of O2 what do you think the tank will have?

If the room the tank is in has higher c02 than the tank and the room has lower 02 than the tank then my understanding is mother nature wants to make equilibrium so when gas exchange happens 02 will come out of the tank and c02 goes in which is opposite of what we want to happen as mother nature wants to get it to 50/ 50 so higher goes in or out to the side which is either lower or higher is my understanding of it.but just from what I learnt as a gas engineer and a bit of logical thinking to come to my conclusion.
Maybe I'm right ir maybe not express myself correctly but that's how I understand it that's if it makes sense how I wrote it lol

 

[Reefahholic]

Of course it does. It’s the same thing when there’s a lot of people breathing in the same room which results in a lower PH.

In reef tanks, surface agitation helps release gas, but it also takes in gases from the surrounding environment. That’s why opening a window works - because you’re letting in fresh air with a higher O2 concentration instead of recirculating air with high CO2.

Opening a window works because you’re letting in air with a much lower CO2 level than what’s in your home.

 

[rtparty]

Amazes me how many people still think pH has anything to do with oxygen. Hint: oxygen and pH are not related in any way

 

[ZoWhat]

Yeah BUT.... how was 'da cheesecake?

 

[Miami Reef]

Yeah BUT.... how was the the cheesecake?

Asking the important question.

Nice PFP btw.

 

[wmb0003]

I have a ventless gas fireplace in the same room as my tank. Turned it on for the first time this year(since I added a Profilux controller to track pH). pH dropped maybe .05. I highly recommend running skimmer air line to outdoors if possible.